Well if your it for a theme I understand

@ Dark Alliance: never thought about it that way.

Thanks. I can see clearly now...

Very nice list. The only thing i wouldn't do myself is put a high sorc on a manticore. Maybe you have some special task for her or something but I just don't know what that could be. You have the frenzy rule you got to deal with. I know you have a focus familiar so you hide her obviously, but you ca...

First of all I want to say i don't have any experience with tournaments and the kill point system. I'm just wondering what the task is of the lvl 2 sorc on the pegasus. It's obviously a scroll caddy with the task of march blocking and magehunting maybe :S But why then the extra level? Will you ever ...

i never liked the idea of characters on chariots

Please tell me why?

just and extra ld or something like that it was +1 ws or +1 bs which is a huge difference Well, take a retinue of 10 warlocks and then put your second hq choice in with your first, and you've basically got a seer council you don't have the augment spell anymore which was the key for the seer counci...

What i don't get is that when you fail 1 save with the pendant (which is at least 1 out of 6) you lose autobreak from combat due to fear/terror and the BSB goes ''poooof''.

Getting lucky is not my strongest point so ...

they've condensed eldar into one army, instead of the many craftworld armies, and it worked really well, now they need to do the same with chaos and SM. all these extra codices is just annoying! Well try to field an Ultwhe army now... No Seer council no black guardians. Yes you can still take aspec...

The 60 warriors are very nice. Like Katon said maybe a BSB on chariot is an idea. If you decide to keep the mantimaster consider the RoD over the AoES. It protects you manti a bit better and your master in CC in some way. Without it, it is a very juicy target too shoot at apart from the dark riders....

So, list-wise; Dreadlord - Black dragon, CD, PoK, AoD Master - RoD, ES, HA, lance SdC, manticore War Hydra War Hydra 6 Dark Riders - rxb, musician 6 Dark Riders - rxb, musician 6 Dark Riders - rxb, musician 10 Shades - GW 6 Harpies 6 Harpies 5 Harpies I think this is what ShiaKhan means with the dr...

The great advantage here is that you still can take chariots even if your special choices are full. With the current awesome special choices we have nowadays this is very nice indeed. Also it makes your chariot US 5 and it can break rank bonusses. Currently I thinking about a BSB in a chariot with t...

Again, even things like battle standards don't need the pendant. While we all want our battle standards to live, the armor of darkness effectively gives a +1 save AND you then save the points for all the armor upgrades AND you can take another magic item on the bsb whereas the pendant would have lo...

supreme sorceress lvl4 dagger Remember when you use your sorceress this way you downgrade the flexibility of your main caster. - 45 degrees sight - range issues from spells - protection --> she is stuck in a unit 1 suicide charge from flyers or another fast unit... And concerning the dagger my opin...

How about: Master - BSB, Dark Steed, Armour of Darkness, Crimson Death This won't work imo. The pendant is mandatory. IIRC Dalamar used the Pendant BSB to pin large monsters for a few turns. e.g. Greater Deamon. Due to the pendant your BSB has a good chance it won't get any wounds. With AoD against...

Maybe take rending stars for your assasin shooting 12'' in shade group is nice..

What do you think yourself?

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I misunderstood then My bad..

People are actually intersted in paying more for a worse hydra? Weird.

And what would you define "worse" of the 7th ed. hydra in comparisation with the 6th edition hydra?

The question is: would you expose your Manticore at a ballista's shot hitting on 4+ when in short range?
The risk still remains too high for the T5.

Sometimes it is inevitable.

I like it more for the units of shooter units or shooting fast cav.

They still have stupidity so that balances alot...

Well i guess this is something new for us. We CAN powergame now. 6th edition we did everything we can to bring up a competive list and we were very succesfull with it. Before the revision of the 6th edition it was really a challenge to play dark elves. And now with the new armybook out it's so much ...

Made a few changes explanations later. Gotto get my Parents from the airport... Characters (511) Dreadlord on Cold One, AoES, Sdc, Crimson Death, SoG (266) BSB on Chariot, RoH, SoM, Ha Sdc Sh (245) Core (869) 20 Warriors, Shields, Full Command (155) 20 Warriors, Shields, Full Command (155) 20 Warrio...

Are you sure you want to keep your RoH on the Black Guard? Seeing your army comp it only protects your BG and maybe Corsair unit because the rest will be gone from turn 1. I don't know your battle plan so maybe it's meant to be there. An other option is to put it in a unit of CoK. Which protects the...

I think that RoD is the second best option since it protects both the Manti and the Master from shooting. In CC it wont do that much because I guess your only charging things that wont strike back and will break immediately. I guess that if you get stuck on WS4 or lower units, it will have some eff...

Optimum number of power dice to use for a spell, updated to specifically discuss both Power of Darkness and use of the Sacrifical Dagger When I'm playing a magic army I planning to have a lvl 4 sorc on dragon and lvl 2 with dagger. First i cast PoD with lvl 2 on 1 dice. 3 things can happen: roll is...