Yes, it does. The difference is that the same old savage horde with shrunken head, or a gutstar, or red fury vampire black knight bus has different army around them. And the opponent usually doesn't have tools to be able to deal with deathstar in any meaningful way other than build their own deathst...

If we get merged profiles, BM on scourgerynner might becone a character of choice for me. Fast, powerful ranged attack and a scary charge with the cloak of twilight.

Scourgerunner has twice the save, twice the wounds and triple the attacks in combat. While reapers tend to fire a salvo off at whatever is hunting them and unless they wipe them in a volley, even a single fast cav can cause them issues, scourgerunner will just charge, kill, and overrun into a favora...

direweasel wrote:blech - no thanks, i'd rather have bolt throwers than scourgerunners.

Suit yourself, I'll take your free reaper points while my scourgerunners evade harm.

I figured this methodology... seems to work for me.
How many points do you have to spend on artillery?
150?
2 Reapers
250?
3 reapers
300?
2 Scourgerunners

Hydra is a tank. if you're facing s3 and to some extend s4 infantry, the hydra can act on its own to bold them down nearly indefinitely. Kharibdyss is a scalpel. it has ridiculous strength but is crazy squishy (especially for a monster), to the point that where it would benefit most from its high S ...

I say bring it, my EoT list with level 4 death, monster killing peglord bunch of fast cav and scourgerunners is ready.

Avoidance list will chuckle at Karl. Nearly 1000 points flying around the board uselessly.

No, asf cancels another asf out. They strike at the same time and nobody rerolls.

Your opponent clearly wasn't ready.
that WoC "army" would've crumbled to any reasonable HE list

Or GW realized that the models are just far too big to fit on 25mm bases.
base size creep is a thing... dragons used to be mounted on a 40mm base.

It's perfectly fine and keeps you extra warm in the cold winters of Naggaroth.

Better not play against any slaanesh wizards

In my opinion using non GW models is pathetic. You are playing their game, their legacy, their rulebook, using their miniatures. Just don't ever show up at a GW with knock-off models, you will be the biggest tool. That's some strong words you used there. We don't consider knock-off models here, kno...

I imagine 12 banshees to do on average about 0-5 wounds total, and then start dying fast.

Terrorgheists is another matter.

Vulcan wrote:Now you know how Bretonnian players feel...

You mean like Bretonnians who just took 2nd place at Northstar (no comp gt)? Going 5-0 in wins?

Think is, those fast units can dodge those masters nearly indefinitely as well, and the slow ones can be used as bait.

I don't use war machines anymore... with the advent of chariot mounted machines, the traditional ones are just too easy points.

If you're dodging a unit all game... you will get shot and magicked apart... and your 12 mobile masters will be bleeding points fast.

I have, 3k points against empire. Used Malekith on Seraphon, he was less effective than anything else in the army.

I would happily face a force like that, absolutely zero staying power. If you dont break whatever you charge in one go... you're toast.

This gave me a thought... what if Malus is going to have a major role to play in the End Times?

And how about that character getting killed by a regular unit?

And thus if further unbalances an already unbalanced game. How does it do it? I hear this sentence repeated on essentially every forum I visit and maybe I'm just that dense but I don't see how it unbalances anything. It's not like if some armies suddenly got free points to spend on their characters...

So I've been trying to create a few end times list, taking advantage of the expanded lords and heroes allowance and every time I encounter the same problem. Once I have my characters and my combat troops down... i find i have no room left for support units that aren't core. So no reapers, no scourge...

Level 2 dark magic wizard with tome of furion.

Power of darkness to boost the knights to S7 and cold ones to S5
word of pain to wreck whatever you're charging.