Thoughts on the Canadain WD

Post by **Underway** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:08 pm

Well for those of you who have picked up your latest US WD in Canada and read the Canadian supplement you will have realized that Canada will be getting its own WD comming the end of May.

It will first be released at Games Day, and then in the stores thereafter. I was wondering what people thought about Canada going all the way with their own magazine. I know there will still be many articles from both the UK and the US in there but Canadian Content is good right??? Or is this perhaps because of the Canadain content rules from the federal Gov't and has nothing to do with acutally doing a Canadian WD.

As for those of you in Canada who want to write arcticles, it shouldn't be to hard to do so. There are far less GW players to compete against than if you wanted one of your articles in the US WD now.

Post by **Langmann** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:57 am

To be honest, I'd rather stay with the US WD. I'm afraid that the number of people just won't provide the quality - such as it is - for a decent WD every month. But then again we know its just a flag-leader for advertising their models anyhow! Who knows maybe it'll surprise me.

(Damn Shrieking Shiela Copps and her Canadian Content anyway!@#$)

Arduhn · Post by **Arduhn** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:56 am

Maybe the price will go down, that would be good, plus maybe now it won't be bagged and we can look in it before we buy it to see if it is worth it.

Personally I think it can only get better...or at least it can't get much worse.

Prince of arnheim · Post by **Prince of arnheim** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:04 am

I hope it isn't anything like the Canadian Website which is pretty much useless as it is right now....it's ok and all but I would rather go to the Uk site cause it has so many more articles...same with the Us site. I think it's a good idea though if the depth is there. I have gotten fed up with WD cause it is full of so many advertisements that are repeated issue after issue. I will be interested to see if the new CD WD if gonna actually be something new or just a reprint of collaborated stuff.

ACtually that almost goes for alot GW does these days, they really need to get something exciting going cuase what i'm seeing with all the choppy plastic models and typo filled rule books really cheeze me off for how much they cost. Anyways.....sorry to speak my mind, don't mind if anyone cuts me down .....

Fr0 · Post by **Fr0** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:19 am

I'm annoyed at you for mispelling Canadian twice.

Now that we've got that clear..

I thought we were doing just fine with getting US White Dwarf, and sometimes UK WD. I think that since GW has expanded a LOT in Canada over the past couple of years it's a very good thing that we have our own WD coming out. This will allow some aspiring writers to have a chance to get published, and also for the great talent we have here (amongst other places I realze that, I'm not ignorant)

Prince of Arnheim wrote:I hope it isn't anything like the Canadian Website which is pretty much useless as it is right now....it's ok and all but I would rather go to the Uk site cause it has so many more articles...same with the Us site.

I'm sure this will change in the very near future, as for me I favour the UK site as it's layout is infinetely better and the content is far more in depth.
Fr0

Seanzala · Post by **Seanzala** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:21 am

I don't think you will have a problem with content. Us Aussies have had our own WD for ages now, and you have about 10 million more people than us. It might be a bit slow to start off but it shouldn't take too long.

Sean

Post by **Underway** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:34 pm

langmann wrote:To be honest, I'd rather stay with the US WD. I'm afraid that the number of people just won't provide the quality - such as it is - for a decent WD every month. But then again we know its just a flag-leader for advertising their models anyhow! Who knows maybe it'll surprise me.

(Damn Shrieking Shiela Copps and her Canadian Content anyway!@#$)

Always complaining against Shiela eh Langmann, she used to be my MP. Ahhh good ole Shiela, member of the Rat Pack, Deputy PM, Martins Arch nemisis, oh and now I think her job description is advisor to anyone who can beat Tony Valeri in an election!!

Not that I'm against Canadian content, there only has to be a certain % of it published in the zine anyways, and then they can poach articles from the rest of the WD's. However the content from the Canadian supplement does not leave me with that warm fuzzy feeling. Hmmm, looks like I'm going to have to start submiting articles to Steve....errr I mean "The Hukush". (BYW I have played games against all those guys before, Steve esp).

Post by **Langmann** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:29 pm

Underway wrote:Always complaining against Shiela eh Langmann, she used to be my MP. Ahhh good ole Shiela, member of the Rat Pack, Deputy PM, Martins Arch nemisis, oh and now I think her job description is advisor to anyone who can beat Tony Valeri in an election!!

Yes, you got that one. You know I almost joined the Lieberal party just to vote for paul martin to keep her out until I realized that somehow the party scrounged up enough people of moderate intelligence to say no to her... I know imagine that langmann joining the lieberals, don't worry I had my fingers crossed.

Not that I'm against Canadian content, there only has to be a certain % of it published in the zine anyways, and then they can poach articles from the rest of the WD's. However the content from the Canadian supplement does not leave me with that warm fuzzy feeling. Hmmm, looks like I'm going to have to start submiting articles to Steve....errr I mean "The Hukush". (BYW I have played games against all those guys before, Steve esp).

Well you never know. I'm not holding my breath. Though it is possible that the silly attachment never attracted serious people.

Still as most assert, its really an advertising corporate flag waver.

Philleehellphia · Post by **Philleehellphia** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:06 pm

I'm actually scared of Canada getting their own WD. Like.. seriously, will there actually be enough content? I'd rather stick with the US White Dwarf, which really should be called North America WD.

Dictator · Post by **Dictator** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:10 pm

should be called North America WD.

Oh I like that statement, and keep the quality up for the canadians

Seralkith · Post by **Seralkith** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:14 am

Does any one know if it will be the same size as the US White Dwarf? If it is I'd be intrested.

Post by **Underway** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:28 pm

Should be the same size. I just expect that a certain % of articles need to be canadain content as per the Fed Gov't regulations. I think about 25% or something IIRC. Just means that they have to insert a Canadain article or two in there. Canadian Golden Deamon stuff, canadain tournament armies, some conversion articles etc...

I wouldn't be surprised if all the bat reps were done elsewhere and all the normal interviews with Gav etc... were still in there.

Post by **Vorchild** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:32 pm

I rather like it actually as it will get a bunch of people I know, and hopefully myself, printed up in a magazine - and that's always an exicting thought.

Also, as the Canadian tournament system is completely different than the US, advertising and whatnot should be a lot easier.

That being said, I don't normally read the mag anyways, so I don't think I'll pick up a subscription.

Fr0 · Post by **Fr0** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:18 pm

Exactly.

It will have a certain percent of Canadian content required by law(which is appaulingly low) but still excellent nonetheless.

Underway, are you from Canada?

Fr0

Doriili bariiliia · Post by **Doriili bariiliia** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 10:49 pm

i was unaware that Magazines had content requirement? can some one point me to the Laws text?

Fr0 · Post by **Fr0** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:17 am

Can't say that I can give you a reference myself, I was told it long ago, and don't doubt it due to the fact that Canadian television stations require 50% Canadian content, so I'm thinking that there should be a similar law concerning books.

I could have heard wrong, but it's concievable.

Fr0

Seanzala · Post by **Seanzala** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 6:19 am

Apart from English, American, Australian and now Canadian, are there any other White Dwarfs or not?

Sean

Cathel · Post by **Cathel** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:45 am

seanzala wrote:Apart from English, American, Australian and now Canadian, are there any other White Dwarfs or not?

Sean

Sure, we got our own WD in Germany.
How much they copy from the UK one I'm not sure.
I don't know exactly what GW is up to, but in the shops you can't get english army books that easily anymore.

Gnosis · Post by **Gnosis** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:53 am

seanzala wrote:Apart from English, American, Australian and now Canadian, are there any other White Dwarfs or not?

Sean

A French one, for a start, distributed in France, Switzerland and Wallony (French speaking part of Belgium). An Italian and Spanish one as well, I believe.

Post by **Langmann** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:33 pm

Fr0 wrote:Can't say that I can give you a reference myself, I was told it long ago, and don't doubt it due to the fact that Canadian television stations require 50% Canadian content, so I'm thinking that there should be a similar law concerning books.

I could have heard wrong, but it's concievable.

Fr0

The MAPL (Content) laws only cover Radio and Television I believe. (Those laws are crap, they favor established artists like Bryan Adams, Celine Dion etc. over new ones. Perfect example of unintended consequences. The cream will rise to the top, we've never needed crappy laws to sell good CDN stuff in the States and the rest of the world - in fact they are hungry for our humour).

The magazine laws you are thinking of are called: Foreign Publishers Advertising Services Act. I don't know if any of it really applies to this situation (unless GW is so fricking poor that they are now looking for CDN subsidies), because the magazine is really a book that they produce just like an army book and not really a magazine that they are selling advertising for.

I think they're just doing it to try and encourage us to participate and buy more stuff.

Fr0 · Post by **Fr0** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:54 am

Ah, see I wasn't too sure but I was told something similar, but as stated it's not completely unreasonable.

langmann wrote:I think they're just doing it to try and encourage us to participate and buy more stuff.

I thought you were like a Swede or something?

Goes to show how much I know about our members.. though I guess you could stick needles into people anywhere..

I look forward to seeing the WD, I can't say I'll buy a lot but I will check it out.

Fr0

Eldacar · Post by **Eldacar** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:11 am

Apart from English, American, Australian and now Canadian, are there any other White Dwarfs or not?

AFAIK, almost all of GW's websites will have a corresponding WD, if they don't already.

Mmckeddie · Post by **Mmckeddie** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:25 pm

The only way this makes sense for the subscriber/purchaser is if the price goes down. It went up substantially when they started doing the supplement. So when we start getting our own WD without that extra pack it "should" go down. But of course it won't because they want to continue to make the extra dough. That kind of cheeses me off.