Kislev

Setzer · Post by **Setzer** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 4:09 pm

As I had some really interesting talking with naram sim on 'War against Irak' thread, we were ending taliking about poland lancers, and that remind me that I own few of Kislev's winged lancer (who just look like poland lancer of 16-17 century - almost historical model? Naram Sim coorect me if I'm wrong).
So as Kislev have been annouced in a WD as a 'maybe army', what do you think his units will be or what kind of unit you like to see?
I know there was an semi-official list supported by Armybuilder during the 5th edition, but that's past...
For me I hope they keep the style of winged lancers but change those mounted archers (they looked too much like Attila's troop for me).
I think winged lancers must be the main cavalry force in the army. Human on bear are too much chaos-like for my taste. I think of a fast, light human army supported by spirits/creatures of winter.

Tue Feb 11, 2003 4:23 pm

GW has stated that they wont change the present models, but will come out with new unit. probably bear mounted ones as that is the heavy cav in kislev

Drasanil · Post by **Drasanil** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 4:27 pm

Cool guys on bears take that chaos knights !lol!

Leithel and odd · Post by **Leithel and odd** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 11:08 pm

Check this out:

http://www.strike-to-stun.com/

The last issue was on Kislev and should be of interest to you.

Setzer · Post by **Setzer** » Wed Feb 12, 2003 8:31 am

Very interesting site. Thanks Leithel

Scronk · Post by **Scronk** » Sun Feb 16, 2003 8:23 pm

Like other sides are based on the real World, Brettonia=French VC=Transylvania are the Kislevites meant to be Russian?

Leithel and odd · Post by **Leithel and odd** » Sun Feb 16, 2003 10:41 pm

Check out the site I mentioned before and you'll get your answer, but I'm pretty sure it's a mixture of Russian and Polish from memory.

Vraneththecruel · Post by **Vraneththecruel** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 8:10 pm

haha. weird but cool site.

Naram sin · Post by **Naram sin** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 10:30 pm

Tulleris wrote:Like other sides are based on the real World, Brettonia=French VC=Transylvania are the Kislevites meant to be Russian?

Bretonia as Bretonia YES
VC as Transylvanians YES
TK as a Egypt - NO
Kislev as a Russia NO - Rusia newer has something as winged lancers. Yes Setzer they looks quite same as winged lancers, for you Polish name for it is HUSARIA. So Kislev should be like Polish 16/17 or eaven 18 century Polish army. It shoul look wery nice. I hope WG will make this army. But Gav pleas no bear riders IN POLAND WE HAVE WHITE BEARS ONLY IN ZOO.

Leithel and odd · Post by **Leithel and odd** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 10:32 pm

They are not entirely polish, I mean the winged lancers are not their only unit. Check out the site I mentioned to see what I mean.

Setzer · Post by **Setzer** » Wed Feb 19, 2003 10:37 am

But Gav pleas no bear riders IN POLAND WE HAVE WHITE BEARS ONLY IN ZOO.

In england they have gav only in zoo too (it's call developpers studio) !lol!

Naram sin · Post by **Naram sin** » Wed Feb 19, 2003 10:47 am

Setzer wrote:
But Gav pleas no bear riders IN POLAND WE HAVE WHITE BEARS ONLY IN ZOO.

In england they have gav only in zoo too (it's call developpers studio)

No, development studio isn't zoo it is CIRCUS. I thikn I tond have to tell you who is mine Clown there :lol:

Leithel and odd · Post by **Leithel and odd** » Wed Feb 19, 2003 11:22 pm

I don't know if you noticed this, but Warhammer is fantasy not historical. There is a historical version of warhammer if you want it to be exactly like history.

Naram sin · Post by **Naram sin** » Thu Feb 20, 2003 12:29 am

Leithel
we kneaw that WFB isn't historical game system but open some historical books not only DE army book and when you will do this you will finde that game dewelopers are basing on historical things. But nowadays they are basing more on hollywod superproductions than on history, that is wery funny because we have now egiptian like army based on movie!!!

Leithel and odd · Post by **Leithel and odd** » Thu Feb 20, 2003 12:40 am

Yes but there's a difference between "based" on history and "actual" history. Kislev is a land of ice and snow, Poland (although very cold) is not just a land of just ice and snow. There are heaps of differences between Kislev and poland but some of the troops are based on Polish history just some bretonnian troops are based on french history and so forth.

Bear riders might not fit into poland, but that doesn't mean they don't fit into Kislev. Now I would probably agree with you that they shouldn't be in the list beacuse I don't particularily like the idea of a human riding a bear.. it's just silly. But not because they aren't polish.

As for the WFB following hollywood, totally agree with you. It's because it's slowly becoming more and more commercial. But as long as the rules system isn't effected I'm not unhappy with that.

Naram sin · Post by **Naram sin** » Thu Feb 20, 2003 11:35 am

Leithel - I kneaw that when you have summer we have snow but it doesn't mean that Poland is a land of chill

It isn't cold so muth in summer we have eaven over +30C and in winter - 10C it is quite avareage European country wether conditions.
I don't like GW commercial politic I hope system will be saved from it.

Leithel and odd · Post by **Leithel and odd** » Thu Feb 20, 2003 10:54 pm

Naram Sin - Yeah I know, though for me that would be still pretty cold! brrr, it doesn't get that cold here. But still what I'm tyring to point out is that Kislev is not like that is all.