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Has it really been that long?

Yes, I've been a member of this site for six years. Which I reckon is pretty damn impressive (Granted, a few other 2002ers still post, some who joined before me).

Let's have a little trip down memory lane...

In the beginning

CHAOS DWARFS! Yes, that's why I'm here, or at least how I got here. As a Chaos Dwarf player whose last book (Not even a proper one) was released in 1994 I was not exactly impressed with the Dark Elf community's call for their book to be redone.

There was a queue, after all.

Originally my (alongside a DE player I knew) distaste for a new DE book was displayed in the raging flame wars against Pierre on the now defunct Games Workshop forums. Pierre was the sort of guy who couldn't see two sides of an argument - you could try to be reasonable and he would still have an argument with you. Opinionated just didn't cover his attitude.

Pierre was a moderator here, later known as Furion. The revision movement became a frequent topic of conversation, so instead of fighting in a sea of drivel at GW, I brought my...'concerns' to this place.

Pierre pointed out to me on the GW forums that he was a moderator here and would be watching me and what I said...

There were many terse words exchanged between me and the great and the good (DA, langmann et al) over the necessity of any such revision and its impact on everyone else waiting for an army book (since this was 6th and Ravening Hordes was still fairly necessary) and would set a potentially dangerous precedent (Cheeky lizardmen players tried, and failed, to do the same). Great tomes of DE wisdom were wrote while I warred with them all - Apparently some of the writers were good players ;).

I never saw the need for a complete rewrite - and of course that's not what happened. The changes made in the revision were sensible - the book did have some big flaws.

The biggest irony of it all? Pierre eventually managed to get himself banned and I (some years later) rose to the position of admin.

The Chat - The Madness Years

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One evening (in early 2003, I think) I was bored. So I logged on to the chat to see what that was all about.

And lo, I was introduced to the multi-coloured swap shop of wonderment. It was (and is) the 'speak easy' of D.net. The rules were a bit looser and the topics of conversation wider.

The likes of Silas, Auric Stormcloud, calapine, ADRIAN!!! (whose username escapes me), DP and I were part of the Late Night Chat and all that entailed. Nothing, bar creepy netstalking, was off-limits. Was it hours of fun? Yesss.

The Great Crash of 2003

Kitrik, being the nice guy he is, went to do some missionary work in Europe during the last half of 2003.

The only problem? The D.net server crashed while he was away and no one was around to fix it. Many D.netters sought refuge in the light airy place they called asur.org.

They had an IRC chatroom. A place of calm and simplicity, dedicated to the finer art of playing Warhammer.

Until the D.net chatters turned up en masse. You know the sort of film where a bunch of leather-clad bikers turn up and start performing doughnuts on a pristine lawn to the horror of the mild-mannered owner? It was just like that.

Poor Ricold tried to stop us a few times, but we just ignored him. Power to the people, eh? Originally the chat was called #warhammerfantasy, but fearing that GW might hunt him down, it was changed to #endanal.

Do you know what innuendo is? D.net chatters do.

Schism part 1

Eventually Kitrik returned and the site was restored, a pale shadow of what it once was (Activity was quite low). The only thing sucking up the bandwidth were the attempts to restore the old chat system.

It was by this point I became a moderator of WHD and later, 40k. Jokingly to myself I thought "Black Guard in six months".

I was, of course, wrong. I was an admin in 9.

But I digress, I was privy to the stuff going on behind the scenes. The chatters were pushed too far and broke away from #endanal and after much discussion between the mods (many of whom were chatters) #dnetchat came into being with me in charge of it.

Schism part 2

The Chat War wasn't over. Some wanted a chat to unite all the race-specific sites on the web, and #albion was created to replace #endanal to serve that purpose.

The call to merge, even from some who had supported D.net independence, became louder. The mods and ini leaders discussed it at length with no final solution, so as a compromise I suggested a vote by the chatters in #dnetchat to decide the matter.

I was against a merger, feeling that if it didn't work before, it was only going to go wrong again...and was having a choice that bad?

24 hours of voting commenced one evening to settle it. Whatever the result was, I was prepared to abide by it.

The result? 12 voted to stay separate, 12 abstained and none wished to merge.

Edit: Due to the 'debate' I looked up the numbers. It was in fact 12-6-6.

Le Grande Fromage

Big changes were coming...One January evening I received a pm...offering me something big.

To be an admin.

Of course, we all know I must have said yes :lol:. But this was the time when it all changed - in the background Kitrik was stepping down and Langmann and Kala (a fellow mod at the time) were to become the webmasters. Linda, formerly a Black Guard and I became the roving admins dealing with all the problems and issues that cropped up from day to day.

We greased the wheels of the sticky RPG and we kept mods and posters who stepped out of line on their toes. My ban count (excluding bots) really has dropped off in these past few years...

And beyond that is what you see now. Postin', sortin', sayin'.

This is how I got here. Many other things went on within the site that I've largely glossed over (The quarterly, the monthly/herald, the coining of 'MSU'). So don't feel too put out if I've missed out a bit of rich tactical history ;).

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<waves to the other old times>

ahh, I've been around since before this site was up... yes, there was another Druchii.net before... then we had a crash :( Sadly I don't remember details but those who were around took refuge in temporary mailing group named "Phil's Temporary Druchii.net"

Why Phil's still eludes me... and funnily enough that mailing list refuses to let me unsubscribe and keeps sending weekly reports of no-activity >.>

Then I was gone, lots of stuff happened, I kinda drifted away from browsing web forums of any kind. Spent more time around MMOs and proper tabletop wargaming instead of wasting time typing on forums :P

And now I'm back :D Been two year now or something since I humbly returned to my roots of Druchii.net.
And I'm here to stay and see the Druchii to the glory they deserve :twisted:

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Rork wrote:
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2002 12:33 pm Post subject: What is good about the Dark Elves? Reply with quote Report Post
Perhaps it is time to depolarise this site...

For too long there have been negative vibes about the Dark Elves -

So the simple question is:

What is actually good about the army? Is it a bad army that just happens to win? Or a good army with unfulfilled potential?

Deep down, Is it *really* that bad?

Discuss.

Your very first post, Rork.

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Time sure does fly ...

I just checked my join date and saw it was January 1 2003. I think that's wrong though. I seem to recall memberships getting erased due to a big server crash. I think I joined a couple months before the 2002 Los Angeles Grand Tournament since that's when I was getting in to the Druchii.

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6 years is a long time. I've been on for 4 years in August, and I think I've been in the chat for almost all that time. I think I remember 2 incarnations of the chat, until I learned about other chat clients and moved on. At some point, I became an Op in #albion, and am now one of the co-owners, but don't worry Rork, I don't hold that against you ;) .

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Dyvim Tvar wrote:
Time sure does fly ...

I just checked my join date and saw it was January 1 2003. I think that's wrong though. I seem to recall memberships getting erased due to a big server crash. I think I joined a couple months before the 2002 Los Angeles Grand Tournament since that's when I was getting in to the Druchii.


Aye, even 2002 feels a bit 'late' for me too...thought I was berating people a bit earlier from uni. But the fog of time confuzzles me >.<. But the post Damnation dug out was my first post...so I'm pretty sure I'm not going nuts!

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That's the crash I mentioned Dyvim, in the grim darkness of the past of Druchii.net there was a database wiping crash :(.

And I've never really been to chat in all those years <.<

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Holy crap, that happened in 2003? :O
Man, I remember it like it was last year. My profile says I joined in May of '05 but I was registered when it happened. The site started having technical problems just after a massive amount of drama (lawl, asur vs druchii) and then I woke up early one morning and it ceased to exist. I was talking a bit with a few of the regulars, and had messaged Kitrik a few times on MSN. I spent part of the day hitting F5, then putting my tab on auto refresh every ten minutes. I was convinced that the site was dead, and began searching elsewhere for information. TWF and asur.org became my new home(s) during this time.

The first time I saw this site, I thought it was some sort of DnD RPG kinda site, and veered away from it. I'm like, I don't want to roleplay wtf is this, I want to talk about tactics and see models painted. Of course, I after awhile actually searched the site a bit more to see what I could find and ended up registering and laughing at myself for being spooked off. :lol:

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Rork wrote:

In the beginning

CHAOS DWARFS! Yes, that's why I'm here, or at least how I got here. As a Chaos Dwarf player whose last book (Not even a proper one) was released in 1994 I was not exactly impressed with the Dark Elf community's call for their book to be redone.

There was a queue, after all.


And if you remember I was 100% behind having a Chaos Dwarf book done as well. My point is as always, I care about what's best for Druchii.

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Originally my (alongside a DE player I knew) distaste for a new DE book was displayed in the raging flame wars against Pierre on the now defunct Games Workshop forums. Pierre was the sort of guy who couldn't see two sides of an argument - you could try to be reasonable and he would still have an argument with you. Opinionated just didn't cover his attitude.


I remember we used to say the same thing about you! ;) Eventually you came around to see the light...

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There were many terse words exchanged between me and the great and the good (DA, langmann et al) over the necessity of any such revision and its impact on everyone else waiting for an army book (since this was 6th and Ravening Hordes was still fairly necessary) and would set a potentially dangerous precedent (Cheeky lizardmen players tried, and failed, to do the same). Great tomes of DE wisdom were wrote while I warred with them all - Apparently some of the writers were good players ;).


You mean you lost many arguments to DA, Ash, LT, Vorchild, Thanee, IT, Grog and I... ;)

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I never saw the need for a complete rewrite - and of course that's not what happened. The changes made in the revision were sensible - the book did have some big flaws.


Well I still think a complete rewrite was necessary (and so did Gav Thorpe) but it wasn't going to happen so we compromised to get something. As I said you also finally also saw the light... ;)

But seriously we all appreciated Rork because he could argue without getting personal. As they say all points require a good whetstone. He also pointed out some of the possible flaws in revision suggestions. Which is one reason Rork became a mod and then an admin. Sadly Pierre, who's disappointment with the Druchii book was very understandable and he was a tireless defender of the Dark Elves on the GW boards, ended up letting his bitterness take completely over, moreover some sad real life things happened to him, so I won't completely condemn him forever.

The sad thing is how long ago all this happened. Time sure flies. What is even more a disappointment is how GW had developed a great relationship with a fan site and that they could have done so much with all the other fan sites out there. Gav Thorpe was very much behind that, regardless of the association of his name with curses in the minds of all DE players. I think during the DE revision Gav found out that he really didn't have the creative control they had given him the impression he had. Therefore GW didn't take advantage of the opportunities available to them on these fan sites, and in that way I think they really lost out on free advertising, and free contributions to the hobby.

Glad to have you, Rork, you have helped this site out so much.

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Rork wrote:
The Chat - The Madness Years

Dot

One evening (in early 2003, I think) I was bored. So I logged on to the chat to see what that was all about.

And lo, I was introduced to the multi-coloured swap shop of wonderment. It was (and is) the 'speak easy' of D.net. The rules were a bit looser and the topics of conversation wider.

The likes of Silas, Auric Stormcloud, calapine, ADRIAN!!! (whose username escapes me), DP and I were part of the Late Night Chat and all that entailed. Nothing, bar creepy netstalking, was off-limits. Was it hours of fun? Yesss.
You forgot me, you big nancy you! Also the BREAKFAST ROLLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mmm... hungry.

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Here's one for you other old-timers:

How many of you have a Druchii.net T-Shirt?

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I have TWO of them :p

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I may not have been around as long (i had an account early in 2007 i forgot and then this one in 2008), but can you still get Tshirts? That'd be sweet :)


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Let me just say, its been a great 5 years for me. And to all you newbies skipping through Rorks post because it doesnt make you as misty eyed as the rest of us, SHAME ON YOU!

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I couldn't afford a shirt shipped from NA back then :(

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Fulgrim wrote:
I may not have been around as long (i had an account early in 2007 i forgot and then this one in 2008), but can you still get Tshirts? That'd be sweet :)


No more T-Shirts. If I recall correctly, GW actually asked Kitrick to stop selling them. Even though he wasn't making any real money off of them, GW legal had a problem with the sale of a product featuring the term "Druchii" (I think they have no problem with the the website itself since it is non-commercial).

Thankfully I got one though :P

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well sorry :P

and whats this about T-shirts? we need some for the GT final

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I missed out on the chance to get a t-shirt, i feel left out now. :(

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That's why I said no full Druchii.net on shirt design ;)

I mean, the sweet D in the font is enough for recognition aspect, and a nice druchii rune somewhere there to tie it up with the Druchii, and we have a nice shirt that GW shouldn't have any problems with ;)

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I remember when the D.net shirts were for sale. And I remember Kitrik being asked to stop selling them. And I also remember when he almost seemed desperate just to get rid of them. As for the chat, in the past 4 years, I have come through fairly uncorrupted, in spite of many attempts by Arq, Silas, Rork and Darkprincess.

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Lies and you know it Loki, I've given you.... The Book.....

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holy crap, i've been lurking here for four years?

hmm... *rubs chin*

AAAH! i GREW A BEARD????

also, grats rork :P

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It's been a long fun ride, and I am glad to see so many of the old faces still around and doing well, and most importantly, still playing dark elves!

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Arquinsiel wrote:
Lies and you know it Loki, I've given you.... The Book.....


I said "fairly uncorrupted". By comparison, I'm still better off than most who come in contact with you people ;) .

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