Hello guys I'm a 8th ed player, ive been wondering how Allways strike first and hatred works
together?
Always Strikes First : A model with this special rule Always Strikes First in close combat regardless of Initiative.
In addition, if the model's Initiative is equal to or higher than his enemy's, he can re-roll misses when striking in close combat.
If the enemy's model has this rule too, the attacks are made simultaneously
Hatred - "troops fighting in close combat with hated foe may re-roll any misses when they attack in the first turn of any close combat"
My wonders are, can i re-roll misses twice? If not, the Eternal Hatred rule seem kinda useless on the Blackguards, unless you faceing other elves or units with the ASF rule.
ASF and Hatred?
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Re: ASF and Hatred?
P.7: no single dice can be re-rolled more than once, regardless of the source of the re-roll.
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Re: ASF and Hatred?
Calisson is right.
The purpose of having both on Blackguard is that ASF only applies if your initiative is higher or the same than the enemy. So, if Blackguard are up against initiative 7 forces or against other ASF forces, then hatred kicks in. But yes, outside of those circumstances, it is redundant, which is part of why Blackguard were overcosted in 8th.
It's also fluffy for Blackguard to have eternal hatred - they are the cream elite of the dark elves, afterall.
The purpose of having both on Blackguard is that ASF only applies if your initiative is higher or the same than the enemy. So, if Blackguard are up against initiative 7 forces or against other ASF forces, then hatred kicks in. But yes, outside of those circumstances, it is redundant, which is part of why Blackguard were overcosted in 8th.
It's also fluffy for Blackguard to have eternal hatred - they are the cream elite of the dark elves, afterall.
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Re: ASF and Hatred?
I see! thank you for your wisdoms Calisson and Red