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Spiking a Hellcannon? 
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Undercover Asrai
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Although it might seem a bit strange to be able to do so, there is nothing in the rules prohibiting spiking (charging an abandoned warmachine and thus destroying it) a Hellcannon.

Some people have claimed that it can't be done ('cause it is Demonic, has its own attacks, fights as a mixed unit), but it is still treated as a Warmachine. The way I see it, if you succed in charging it and survive until the end of combat, you destroy it.

What do you think?

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Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:29 pm
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I was thinking the same, and also didn't find anything about that. It's to read better (and may be with some interpretation...) the description of Hellcannon. :shock:

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Lol. That's an interesting point of view. But I think it wasn't intended to work that way. It's just another gap in the rules. IMO Hellcannon should fight until it's destroyed by normal hits. That's why it has 'Unbreakable' in the rules.


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This is one of the few instances where the intention is so blindingly obvious that even the designers missed.

I can't imagine anyone playing it like that in a friendly game, and anyone doing so in a tournament game should expect to get really, really low sports.

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Fri Oct 15, 2004 1:44 pm
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the crew are easy to kill then watch it rampage hell cannons are too costly and crap.

two turns of shooting from two RTBs
eg
24 shots hit on 3s (large target)
17 hits
6 on crew
3 wounds all the crew dead and 270 pts wasted

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Death on a stick wrote:
3 wounds all the crew dead and 270 pts wasted


Not true. For a Hellcannon, you score only half points (135+half of the gifts) for killing all the crew. Check SoC Q&A.

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By wasted I ment that it cant do the job they wanted it to and so the points are watsted on that unit rather than having another more effective one.

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Not true. For a Hellcannon, you score only half points (135+half of the gifts) for killing all the crew. Check SoC Q&A.


Right, but other 135 + gifts points stops fighting against you, and starts rampaging in enemy deloyment. So from opponents point of view, whole 270 points is lost (and half alive to cause him trouble).

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3 wounds all the crew dead and 270 pts wasted



Yeah but you have just spent 200pts worth of artillery for two turns firing at the worst target you could. Why not uses 90pts of baiting riders to do a similar job or some magic. + Why take 2 RBT, what a huge waste of points.

As for the thread, I guess you could interprate the rules that way, but as stated its clearly not how its meant to be, so I wouldn't think about it any more.

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keep things on topic!! tactics and such do NOT belong here!

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