Panic for breaking or destroyed friendly unit

Dy · Post by Dy » Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:29 am

The distance from where take the 6" is said to be the unit breaking, but for destroyed unit from where have I to measure? From last model killed or from the nearest model of the unit befor removeing casualtis (so that have to work the same for breaking units)?

Bemenacth · Post by **Bemenacth** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 6:53 am

I'd say from the nearest model killed before removing causalties, but I don't think there is actually a fixed rule for it.

Black fox · Post by **Black fox** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:48 am

From the nearest model of the unit after removing casualtis, thats how we play

Mirz do ordas · Post by **Mirz do ordas** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:55 am

from the nearest before removing casualities, just the size the unit was before the combat.
At least, that is how I play it.

Hruggek · Post by **Hruggek** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 7:12 pm

For Unit broken I take the fighting rank to declare the distance (since it is broken in combat).
If the Unit is utterly destroyed, I take the distance from the whole destroyed unit, the closest to the friendly troops (since it is Unit destroyed).

Talath kirdhur · Post by **Talath kirdhur** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 7:17 pm

For Unit broken I take the fighting rank to declare the distance (since it is broken in combat ).

I don't think this is right as the whole UNIT is broken.
We play from the nearest before removing casualities that round.

Bleys · Post by **Bleys** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 9:18 pm

If you always pick the closest point (or point that was clsoest before the unit ceased to exist) you won't go wrong. How you go about determining where that point was if the unit is wiped out is up to you, but generally it can be pretty easily "eyeballed" and then measured.

If there's any doubt, just take the test

At the very least you'll get good sportsmanship scores in a tournament

Dy · Post by Dy » Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:00 pm

Yeah, the thing was that sure i take measure from nearest model remained, but for destroyed unit ther's no model, so if I take from the nearest model before remove casualties, I have to do so also with broken unit (against the rules).

Or I take from the last model removed, anyway it's an house rule.

In a question:
I've to take measure before or after removing casualties?

Asger · Post by **Asger** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 2:22 pm

The only option that makes any sense is to take the test on any units within range before models are removed.

Otherwise no test would be taken when units are destroyed. It isn't clearly stated but it is the only reasonable solution.

Asger

Hruggek · Post by **Hruggek** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 12:22 am

Ooooops! I played the whole time the wrong way? :roll:

Sorry for wrong interpretation....

Luthien tinuviel · Post by **Luthien tinuviel** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 6:24 am

In case of broken: measure from nearest model after casualities are removed. After all, they are dead, they cannot be broken any longer.
In case of destroyed: measure from the nearest model that was at the beginning of CC, before blows were dealt, as each and every model was destroyed.

Dy · Post by Dy » Wed Oct 20, 2004 11:03 am

So i've to use two different rules for the same rule's test (test in 6" if unit broken/destroyed), it's better a model remains to be broken, may be a big difference of measuration...

Yes for broken is said nearly clear, but when destroyed

Talath kirdhur · Post by **Talath kirdhur** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 12:00 pm

I think it's pretty clear that most interpret the rule for breaktest when unit gets destroyed, as 6" from nearest model before removing casualities.