magical attacks from de items
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magical attacks from de items
are the attacks made by Black amulet, magical? I think so even if the original are from a normal attack.. and what about the cloak of twilight, are the attacks from the bearer magic on first turn only? (since the item give you a boost only on that turn)
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Re: magical attacks from de items
Excellent questions. I'm not sure but I think:
- Rebouncing wounds from the Black Amulet would count as magical
- Attacks with a mundane weapon and the Cloak of Twillight are not magical, as the model is granted the special rules and not the weapon.
- Rebouncing wounds from the Black Amulet would count as magical
- Attacks with a mundane weapon and the Cloak of Twillight are not magical, as the model is granted the special rules and not the weapon.
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Re: magical attacks from de items
Damage done by magic items is always magical.
Since black amulet bounces the wounds back, they are magical
Cloak of twilight enhances attacks but doesn't do damage by itself so its not magical.
Otyerwise you'd have to assume that attacks done by any model with any attack improving spell on them are magical.
Since black amulet bounces the wounds back, they are magical
Cloak of twilight enhances attacks but doesn't do damage by itself so its not magical.
Otyerwise you'd have to assume that attacks done by any model with any attack improving spell on them are magical.
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Re: magical attacks from de items
according to the faq:
Q: What are ‘magical attacks’? (p68)
A: All attacks made by spells and magic items are considered
to be magical attacks, as are all attacks that are specifically
noted as being magical attacks. Shots fired from magical items
are also considered to be magical attacks, unless their
description specifically states otherwise. Hits inflicted by rolls
on the Miscast table are treated as magical attacks.
(emphasis mine)
so it looks like that an item that gives your hero +d3 extra attacks gives him d3 magical attacks, while an item that makes your normal attacks multiwound d3 doesn't (they are the original attacks just enhanced).
it's not crystal clear but it make sense.
Q: What are ‘magical attacks’? (p68)
A: All attacks made by spells and magic items are considered
to be magical attacks, as are all attacks that are specifically
noted as being magical attacks. Shots fired from magical items
are also considered to be magical attacks, unless their
description specifically states otherwise. Hits inflicted by rolls
on the Miscast table are treated as magical attacks.
(emphasis mine)
so it looks like that an item that gives your hero +d3 extra attacks gives him d3 magical attacks, while an item that makes your normal attacks multiwound d3 doesn't (they are the original attacks just enhanced).
it's not crystal clear but it make sense.
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Re: magical attacks from de items
Bigboar wrote:so it looks like that an item that gives your hero +d3 extra attacks gives him d3 magical attacks, while an item that make your normal attacks multiwound d3 doesn't /they are the same numer of attack just enhanced).
it's not crystal clear but it make sense.
If it's a magic sword giving the multiwound rule, I think it's safe to say that there are magical attacks.
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Re: magical attacks from de items
Dyvim tvar wrote:Bigboar wrote:so it looks like that an item that gives your hero +d3 extra attacks gives him d3 magical attacks, while an item that make your normal attacks multiwound d3 doesn't /they are the same numer of attack just enhanced).
it's not crystal clear but it make sense.
If it's a magic sword giving the multiwound rule, I think it's safe to say that there are magical attacks.
sure, you must use a magic weapon and all your attacks are magical...
but an attack that come from a cloak, an amulet, an armour a pair of shoes... they are magical as well.
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Re: magical attacks from de items
i wish that was the case Bigboar xD would make my life so much easier vs my standaard opponent who plays VC.
he just makes a joke out of my Peggylord :'(
he just makes a joke out of my Peggylord :'(
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Re: magical attacks from de items
Would attacks from a unit with the banner of eternal flame be able to damage Etherals, the description for them in the rule book states magical attacks and effects, the flame from the banner would seem to be an effect from a magical item.
Any thoughts or experience of this in practice?
Any thoughts or experience of this in practice?
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Re: magical attacks from de items
Sangfroid wrote:Would attacks from a unit with the banner of eternal flame be able to damage Etherals, the description for them in the rule book states magical attacks and effects, the flame from the banner would seem to be an effect from a magical item.
Any thoughts or experience of this in practice?
Short answer: No. They're Flaming Attacks, but not magical Flaming Attacks.
The attacks aren't from the item itself. The item's effects enhance existing attacks, in much the same way as the Cloak of Twilight.
If the Banner of Eternal Flame gave you magical attacks because it's a magical item, there would be no point in Flaming Sword of Rhuin specifically conferring magical attacks AND Flaming Attacks on the target unit. That it confers both, and states each one as a separate effect, suggests that the Banner of Eternal Flame doesn't make your attacks magical.
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