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So do you play your druchii offensive or defensive?

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 2:31 pm
by Dragon9
I was wondering. I see a lot of people talk about the druchii being an offensive army. I play them defensively personally. My (currently only) army list consists of a High Sorceress, an Assassin, a Noble on Dark Steed, 2 16 man units of crossbows deployed 10 across, a unit of 16 spearmen, a unit of 5 Dark Riders, a unit of 15 Witch Elves, a Unit of 10 Shades and a RBT. I have had very good success with this army as I stand and shoot at the enemy, letting them come to me, engaging in hth when I've softened them up.

Just looking for how others play their armies.

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 2:33 pm
by Lord Thalack
Always offensive :) Most of the times with a unit corsairs, 2 units dark riders, a unit shades, some harpies, a high sorceress, sorceress, noble and some other stuff

Bye
Lord Thalack

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 2:54 pm
by Quasekomiki
Actually, a bit of both...

At first I sit back, letting the enemy have a taste of my accuracy in aiming...

Then, when he comes dangerously close to my troops, my flying lure is thrown out (usually 10 Warriors with rxb's or Dark Riders). When these flee from the charge, he's gonna have a problem with the charge he's gonna receive.

Then it's mopping up the rest of the army (if the above worked that is).

Well

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2002 4:51 am
by horseboy
I just had my first battle with my army I've been painting for the last year and a half. I got plastered by chaos knights in round two, loosing 9 spearmen in one hit

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2002 6:41 am
by Leithel and odd
Although I voted offensive I only did so because I probably play it "slightly" more than defensive. I play both depending on what theme I choose for each game.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2002 7:56 am
by Sneaky
Only 9 Spearmen? I've seen worse - they obviously weren't chosen Knights. I've had my Chosen Knights of Khorne (I played a game with my Khorne army recently) charge into a unit of Corsairs and kill ALL of them (I kid you not - with three S5 attacks each and 5 of these attacks total, it's not so surprising). All 12 died, and I was a happy bugger.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2002 11:34 am
by Quasekomiki
Lesson to be learned : with Druchii you refuse every combat of which you think you might loose it.

If I see 5 Chosen Knights of Khorne thundering towards my unit of 12 (or even 20) Corsairs, I run...

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2002 12:51 pm
by Metallurgist
I voted 'offensive'.

This does not mean that I will try to get into close combat as fast as possible though, but I always do the charging. I consider counter attack offensive too, it's just smarter too soften the enemy up before you chop the remains to pieces.

I must admit that I seldom use crossbowelves, as in my experience they are overcosted. RBT can work miracles though, and I never leave home without two of those! Magic helps out a lot too, especially dominion, and sometimes the 'deny shooting' effect from chillwind.

-Metallurgist

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2002 5:29 pm
by Dargo
I seem to get more and more towards 'offensive' - even closer to that 'Watchtower Patrol' -list. You'll just have to CHARGE, not to wait to be charged by the enemy. There aren't so many 'tarpit'-units in our army, you know, so counter-attacking is a bit risky.

You just have to see the look on a Grey Seer's face when his so called 'fast' troops are charged by your Druchii on the turn two!

I've tried the infantry-heavy -army too, but to achieve the ultimate moment of an attacker - a simultaneous charge from the front/flank/back - you almost have to use the cavalry. I do like to field two reapers occasionally, especially against chaos, but I can live without them.

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2002 5:45 pm
by Fallen angel
Always offesnive. Us Druchii pay for our M5, and I intend to use it! Plus I don't think I could play an army that doesn't move in it's own phase. I far too much love Cold One Knights and flanks having a brief and productive discussion :twisted:

Fallen Angel

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2002 7:06 pm
by Dalamar
Only Offensive! My usual army contains 4x5 Dark riders, some knights, 2 chariots, Dragon and depending on enemy 2 sorceresses or 2 nobles on pegasi. I tried to play defensively but we're NOT dwarves! we can't stand a charge with our shooting units (unless really lucky)

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2002 12:14 am
by Decheran
yes, if i were to see a unit of chosen chaos nights of khorne looking menicingly at a unit of anything, i couldn't help seeing an arcraft carrier steaming at a dingy, your not going to win unless really lucky

anywho, i think i play a bit of both. I don't intend on taking any charges, but i sit my RXB's and RBT's on a hill with a unit of spearmen to babysit them and steamroll down one flank with a chariot and 20 executioners w/ an assassin, it usually works pretty well

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2002 5:10 am
by Mordkar
Offensively, but only because most people seem to think that Defensive tactics entails letting your units be charged;

I sit and wait for the enemy to come to me so that I can dictate how and when any charges take place. I habitually take three(sometimes four) units of Dark Riders to make sure that the enemy can't maneuver into the positions that she'd like to. This ensures that my magical supremacy has plenty of time to assert itself by slowly disintigrating enemy units :)

But whatever :)

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2002 11:58 pm
by Seraphon
I voted offensive, although I play a bit of both.
I usually use crossbowmen along with RBTs and then when the opponent charges them I charge his flanks with my dark riders (and if I'm lucky) cold one knights.

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2002 1:22 am
by Pokeme
Right now, I play offensive. But looking at DE's firepower which is quite decent, I may want to try out defensive strategies this week. 8)

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2002 1:39 am
by Dungeon_god
PokeMe-I wouldn't do it against a higher toughness army-I didn't fare to well when I tried. :(

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2002 2:34 am
by Varanos
I also voted Offensive but tend to play defensive at times,but only when it comes to movement.If i know i dont have the distance to charge ill stay In range enough where i know i wont be able to be charged and where i know i can charge on my next turn.i tend to use the first couple of turns to set up charges from front & flank.I have had good success with that.

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 4:14 pm
by Denthor
I play defensivly with tons of cross bow men and four repeater bolt throweres. I also take alot of magic but because of my bad dice rolling it does not matter how many shots i get i still only ever kill a few men before i get it to combat.

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 4:37 pm
by Tacklbry
I would always rather attack than defend. We move fast and are not too tough. It is necessary to bring the fight to the enemy and hold the initiative.

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 4:41 pm
by Grogsnotpowwabomba
Metallurgist wrote:I must admit that I seldom use crossbowelves, as in my experience they are overcosted.


Do you feel that way even now with the 7pt Warriors? At 9pts, they were definately overcosted, but now I think they are worth their points easily.

BTW, its awesome to see you back here. I haven't seen you in ages.

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 4:45 pm
by Kondheron
Always offensive. Although I tend to be a bit careful when i see a unit of Night Goblins.

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 4:55 pm
by Kensei
Well, although our Druchii arrogance tends to dictate the course of the battle, still I think the playing style quite depends on the opponent. Still there is filthy barbarians with longer range and sinfully overpowered good mages that can hit anywhere on the battlefield.....

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 5:01 pm
by Seraphlaw
i would like the third option of counter offensive =)

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 5:43 pm
by Multani
Greetings!

I always play offensive!

Why? Because of Movement 5 and Toughness 3. ;)

You should attack quickly (and you can with movement 5 infantry and movement 7 or 9 cavalry) and because of that avoid enemy missile fire (which is unpleasant with toughness 3). Especially witch elves aren't fans of defensive playing style, I would guess. ;)

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 6:09 pm
by Drakken
I play more balanced, with a heavy leening towards offensive. I think the balance is more than necessary since even comboing and flanking, there are just certain unit I don't ever want to fight (Ironbreakers, Slayers, Chosen Warriors of Khorne w/ 2 Hand Weapons, you get the idea).