dark emissary

Sortelveren · Post by **Sortelveren** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 2:09 pm

is it still possible to use the dark emissary after the campaign is over?

Leithel and odd · Post by **Leithel and odd** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 3:00 pm

The Dark Emmisary has been added to the DoW army rules and thus can still be used as well as all other characters from Albion.

Post by **Dark Alliance** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 3:30 pm

He has some pretty good spells too. Thought i might try him out soon, next time I play the skaven as I figure I might go magic heavy for that game.

And he gets +1 to cast which fits in with our fluff.

Sortelveren · Post by **Sortelveren** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 3:37 pm

where can i find out how much he costs to have in an army and how many hero/lord slots he takes?

Kultru · Post by **Kultru** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 4:10 pm

Sortelveren wrote:where can i find out how much he costs to have in an army and how many hero/lord slots he takes?

I remember he uses up one Hero slot, one rare slot and the point cost is the same as the scored vic.points you get from him.

I have used him in some 3000+ games, and he allways won me the points back. nice.

Post by **Thanee** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 5:40 pm

Dark Alliance wrote:And he gets +1 to cast which fits in with our fluff.

And we won the Albion campaign, so it fits even more!

Bye
Thanee

Post by **Thanee** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 5:42 pm

On the GW Albion page, there are the full rules printed.

I had used him once against The Empire, was quite funny, since he repeatedly panicked the Elector Count on Griffon (the guy just couldn't pass a leadership test on 9-), three times in a row (he always rallied afterwards), sending him off the table the third time! :mrgreen:

Bye
Thanee

Post by **Dark Alliance** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 5:45 pm

The Dark Emissary costs 265 points and uses up 1 special and 1 rare slot. He is armed with a hand weapon - the staff of darkness which gives him +1 to cast. He is a level 4 wizard with his own spell list which he must always use. He also has "The Spiral" which gives him a 5+ ward save.

Full details are in the 2003 annual but I am sure if you ask, one of the guys can find a link to GW for you. I don't know what issue of WD the info is in. :twisted:

Post by **Lord Thalack** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 6:14 pm

1 special and 1 rare slot? not 1 hero and 1 rare slot?

I've got the rules for him. So if you want them pm your e-mail adres and I'll send them.

Bye
Lord Thalack

Post by **Thanee** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 6:19 pm

Hero + Rare

Bye
Thanee

Post by **Thanee** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 6:22 pm

HERE you'll find the rules online.

In the menu to the left, you'll also find the other rules. The only thing omitted there, is the cost for the two characters (Dark Emissary and Truthsayer), but this has been printed in a White Dwarf and is, as others had said already.

The Dark Emissary and the Truthsayer each cost 265 points and can be hired much like any other DoW unit, using up a Hero AND a Rare choice!

Dark Elves can only use the Dark Emissary, they cannot use the Truthsayer.
Basically all evil races work like this, and all good races are the opposite. The neutral races can hire both (but - altho it doesn't say so specifically - you obviously cannot hire them both in the same army).

Bye
Thanee

Sortelveren · Post by **Sortelveren** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 7:09 pm

ok, thnx for the help. how can i buy it?

Post by **Thanee** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 8:02 pm

The model? GW mailorder?

Bye
Thanee

Post by **Dark Alliance** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 9:12 pm

Lord Thalack wrote:1 special and 1 rare slot? not 1 hero and 1 rare slot?
Lord Thalack

Sorry, my misprint he uses 1 hero & 1 rare :oops:

Shockwave · Post by **Shockwave** » Tue Oct 22, 2002 5:23 am

Also if you r felling nasty you can use him to get a Lvl 4 mage into a 1500 pt game if your that way inclined. Also no one mentioned it you can also have upto 3 fen beast's for a additional Rare choice at 85pts per beast but i find i don't rare enough rare slots to go round as it is.

Post by **Thanee** » Tue Oct 22, 2002 9:10 am

I don't have used Fenbeasts yet, but want to get a few and try them eventually. They are surely nice, especially having some unbreakable unit, like a Chaos Spawn, could benefit the Dark Elves greatly, and they can be healed by the Dark Emissary - they come at a cost, however, as this will eat up all the rare slots in a 2000-2500 points game.

Bye
Thanee

Calindor · Post by **Calindor** » Wed Oct 23, 2002 12:09 pm

In the cityguard list you can only use one magicuser at max level 2. But you think it could be fun/good to use a emissary in the cityguard list to boast your magic? Then they will not be so weak in the magic list gainst other armies like vampires, highelf etc. What do you think?

Post by **Lord Thalack** » Wed Oct 23, 2002 12:14 pm

I don't think it is allowed

Bye
Lord Thalack

Sortelveren · Post by **Sortelveren** » Wed Oct 23, 2002 2:15 pm

ditto

Lord katan · Post by **Lord katan** » Wed Oct 23, 2002 6:55 pm

I like the sounds of this dark emissary, he is very powerful, he would fit in well with my raiding theme! I might not even take reapers with now, just some ogres and this strange fellow!

Lord katan · Post by **Lord katan** » Wed Oct 23, 2002 6:57 pm

aaht o hell with ogres! some fenbeasts sound gooder!

Calindor · Post by **Calindor** » Wed Oct 23, 2002 7:36 pm

I also think that the fenbeast are really cool. Also suits the dark tone of the DE better then ogres. To bad that they and the darm emissary use up all the rare choices.

Post by **Thanee** » Wed Oct 23, 2002 8:25 pm

Hey, these guys need some downsides, too!

Bye
Thanee

Shockwave · Post by **Shockwave** » Thu Oct 24, 2002 12:25 am

Yes they can be used to make up for the loss of the rest of your mages, However I wouldn't use up my rare slots for them cos i value my harpys and shades more. But in more than 2000 maybe but then i wouldn't use cityguard list either.

Bane of ulthuan · Post by **Bane of ulthuan** » Mon Oct 28, 2002 2:59 pm

Okay I need to be sold on these Fenbeasts (but not the Dark Emissary. He's already found his way into my army list). Are they worth taking over 2 Reaper Bolt Throwers?

Feel free to give me a pro's and cons list for them coz I aint sold on them yet (and I haven't been playing Warhammer long enough to do it myself

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Thanks in advance.

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Are Fenbeasts any good?