Cauldron of Blood
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- Tar-ciryan
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Cauldron of Blood
I saw this on the GW site.
"Finally, the Cauldron of Blood, an ancient artifact of long-gone days when the gods walked the earth, can restore the youth and vitality of the brides of Khaine who bathe in it and all Dark Elf troops proximate to the cauldron are affected by Frenzy."
Now, this is probably just a gaming word being used in a fluff context and has no real substance to it, but it made me think. Possible new rule?
"Finally, the Cauldron of Blood, an ancient artifact of long-gone days when the gods walked the earth, can restore the youth and vitality of the brides of Khaine who bathe in it and all Dark Elf troops proximate to the cauldron are affected by Frenzy."
Now, this is probably just a gaming word being used in a fluff context and has no real substance to it, but it made me think. Possible new rule?
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I wouldnt read too much into it, GW often does these things (ie make descriptions that are not even close to how it works in the game).
General FAQ:
http://www.druchii.net/viewtopic.php?t=2504
FAQ about rules:
http://www.druchii.net/viewtopic.php?p=547809
http://www.druchii.net/viewtopic.php?t=2504
FAQ about rules:
http://www.druchii.net/viewtopic.php?p=547809
- Duffman327
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If it's true, I would toss my cauldron by the window.
We're not an army of Khorne. I don't know here you saw that but I'm pretty sure it won't be the rule of the next Cauldron because I think it would be more useless than it is now. I don't say that the current Cauldron isn't good, but it's doesn't worth it right now.
We're not an army of Khorne. I don't know here you saw that but I'm pretty sure it won't be the rule of the next Cauldron because I think it would be more useless than it is now. I don't say that the current Cauldron isn't good, but it's doesn't worth it right now.
- Black corsair
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Crawd wrote:If it's true, I would toss my cauldron by the window.
We're not an army of Khorne. I don't know here you saw that but I'm pretty sure it won't be the rule of the next Cauldron because I think it would be more useless than it is now. I don't say that the current Cauldron isn't good, but it's doesn't worth it right now.
The cauldron right now is amazing.
I hope it doesn't change one bit.
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I believe GW is using the word `Frenzy` as a figure of speech. That is to say they`re NOT using it to describe the Dark Elf troops as Frenzied in Gaming terms.
In the passage quoted by Tar-Ciryan, it does sound a bit like the Druchii troops ARE affected by Frenzy ("are affected by Frenzy") in Game terms. I`d have to read the quote in context with the whole article/blurb to see whether it is written in such a way to imply the passage is Rules related or Fluff related. If it`s Fluff related, then I think Frenzy is a figure of speech. If it`s more Rules related, then maybe it IS in Game terms. I just find it hard to believe that GW would give us the double uncontrollable whammy of Army Wide Hatred and Frenzy.
If Frenzy IS applicable to all Troops in `proximity` of the CoB, a whole new approach would be required to use the Army effectively (and maintain some kind of control over it) when fielding the CoB.
And if that`s the case, then GW is taking the Druchii nearer a place that I don`t like. Frothing semi-controlled masses. Sounds like a cross between Khornate Chaos, and O&G`s to me. I `spose it`s only when fielding the CoB, but that makes using it a very fraught prospect.
Anyway. I have faith that GW wont break the Dark Elves in regard to using the CoB. (He says hopefully...).
In the passage quoted by Tar-Ciryan, it does sound a bit like the Druchii troops ARE affected by Frenzy ("are affected by Frenzy") in Game terms. I`d have to read the quote in context with the whole article/blurb to see whether it is written in such a way to imply the passage is Rules related or Fluff related. If it`s Fluff related, then I think Frenzy is a figure of speech. If it`s more Rules related, then maybe it IS in Game terms. I just find it hard to believe that GW would give us the double uncontrollable whammy of Army Wide Hatred and Frenzy.
If Frenzy IS applicable to all Troops in `proximity` of the CoB, a whole new approach would be required to use the Army effectively (and maintain some kind of control over it) when fielding the CoB.
And if that`s the case, then GW is taking the Druchii nearer a place that I don`t like. Frothing semi-controlled masses. Sounds like a cross between Khornate Chaos, and O&G`s to me. I `spose it`s only when fielding the CoB, but that makes using it a very fraught prospect.
Anyway. I have faith that GW wont break the Dark Elves in regard to using the CoB. (He says hopefully...).
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sarlaccfood wrote:Thanks, It's just I noticed that over the last few weeks there's been quite a few on ebay new for pretty good prices!
Then I would go for it, I guess. The guardians are very sweet models and for them alone it's worth it, IMHO. In fact, I'm thinking about getting a few CoBs from ebay (when I can get them for a reasonable price), just for them.
Maybe there will be a new model somewhere in the future, but that doesn't make older models unusable. *shrug*
For now, there are/were pretty accurate lists on the web already about which models we will get with the new book this year... and the cauldron was not part of it. Check the (official) rumors roundup thread for more details.
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I seriously doubt that all our troops will have frenzy - it would make them plain unusable, and be far too dangerous. My guess is that it will stay pretty much the same. Possibly with wheels, that would not be a problem for me, got the old one.
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Minsc wrote:The current cauldron is indeed very overpriced, especially since its so "easy" to outshoot it/kill it in close combat with almost anything.
Have you used the current cauldron?
Easy to out shoot it? of course it has no shooting...easy to shoot down not at all, need to kill three crew after randomization and then you need to get through a 4+ ward save. Just about the hardest warmachine in the game to kill with shooting.
As for in CC, very few mage killing units will actually kill the three guardians, and then what ever is left is likely to either win wear down the opposing troop or they are likely to hold a few rounds, which is all you should need anyway.
The thing is amazing.
- Raneth
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Zeth wrote:The thing is amazing.
QFT. It turns my little DR into frothing maniacs (Kebab!). Not even mentioning the horses.
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