The new book summary, as reported by Milney

[Silverheimdall]

Cloak of Shadows is already taken (Skaven) so they chose something close

[Monkeylord]

Though I think a more worthy title would be "Cloak of OMFGASSASSIN IN YER FACE FTW!!11!"

lol

Ok, admittedly, it probably sounds better in its Druchii translation...

[Minionboy]

Can a Death Hag be your General?

[Dullmentalracket]

why not?

[Talonz]

Not with a Dreadlord around I would imagine (with his higher ld), but otherwise, yeah.

[Calisson]

I've seen nothing in the book that would prevent a Death Hag to be your General. Not even if she was the only Khainite in the army.

[Rkhatzar]

any one will/can answer my question?
1) wich spells can be cast in to combat?
2) can two or three caloudron effects combine? - i've designed 2000pts. army with 3 caloudrons [assassins, executioners and so.] and i wonder if i can give single assassin +3 atacks.

[Masterofdarkness]

Now any spell that is not a magic missle or the like can be cast into combat unless it specifies otherwise.

[Milney]

any one will/can answer my question?
1) wich spells can be cast in to combat?
2) can two or three caloudron effects combine? - i've designed 2000pts. army with 3 caloudrons [assassins, executioners and so.] and i wonder if i can give single assassin +3 atacks.

No Cauldron effects are explicitly unable to combine.

[Aspiring executioner]

No it has to state explicitly that it can be cast into combat. IIRC soul-stealer and word of pain can be cast into combat, not sure on blade wind but I think it can.

[Whobetta]

is it true that the "close combat" attacks from the bladewind spell will recieve Hatred or Killing blow by any chance???

Hatred as they are DE close combat attacks
and
Killing Blow if you use cauldron to give unit Sorc is in KB (or some other sneaky way)

Thanks

[Sir_stenz]

is it true that the "close combat" attacks from the bladewind spell will recieve Hatred or Killing blow by any chance???

Hatred as they are DE close combat attacks
and
Killing Blow if you use cauldron to give unit Sorc is in KB (or some other sneaky way)

Thanks

Same question with the Hydra's Teeth....

[Thanee]

No, they do not.

Bye
Thanee

[Whobetta]

thats rubbish...

oh well..

[Druchii77]

I love the new lore for damage potential. 5 of the 6 spells cause direct damage to an enemy unit. Bladewind is actually brilliant as most characters won't be safe even in a unit. Couple that with lifetaker and you have an effective anti-magic strategy. I would say that dominion is missed, but otherwise, I think the lore got much better.

[Masterofdarkness]

Also since blade wind isnt a magic missle it can be cast at a unit engaged in close combat. Dont know if it requires line of sight either

[Milney]

Also since blade wind isnt a magic missle it can be cast at a unit engaged in close combat. Dont know if it requires line of sight either

It requires line of sight, and no it cannot be cast into combat.

Unless a spell specifies it has the ability to be cast into combat, it can't.

[Venkh]

Unfortunately the "extreme destructive power" promised by Alesso did not manifest itself in dark magic. I am just very underwhelmed by the spell effects.

Fortunately the extra lores, fantastic items and murderous default spell more than made up for it.

[Azure]

The nice part is with the lore of metal and the vast amounts of PD usage abilities, we can take 2 level 2's and reliably get off some spells that are going to hurt.

-Rex

[Dies irae]

If you use Blade wind on a war machine, do you hit the crew only, or do 66% go to the machine as with normal spells?

[Milney]

If you use Blade wind on a war machine, do you hit the crew only, or do 66% go to the machine as with normal spells?

Debateable. When it came up in my games we just ruled it was randomised as usual.

Still I didn't mind. More often than not I got about 12 attacks, most on the machine and with only a little luck needed the 3 6's needed to gib the machine appeared.

One level 2 took apart 3 machines on her own. PoD using her own dice. Average of 3 dice gained, stole one pool dice and chucked all 4 into Bladewind. Stuff died!

[Thanee]

Of course it is not randomized. It's close combat attacks, not shooting attacks. In close combat you choose what to attack.

The only limitation is, that you cannot allocate more than X attacks against each champ/char in a unit.

Bye
Thanee

[Izirath]

But you can still mangle that War machine crew! Awesome spell.

[Milney]

Of course it is not randomized. It's close combat attacks, not shooting attacks. In close combat you choose what to attack.

The only limitation is, that you cannot allocate more than X attacks against each champ/char in a unit.

Bye
Thanee

That's not a strong argument for the spell. People were also arguing that as when you charge a machine you can only fight the crew, but forget that there are rules for fighting a warmachine in close combat.

To be honest, in the new book, this is the only thing that really needs an FAQ. 3D6 attacks without randomising is just awesomely powerful to be honest. Even with randomising my opponents wised up quickly to its power but ran out of dispel scrolls/runes of spellbreaking before long.

[Masterofdarkness]

Okay you are right about the spells in close combat, I missed it the last few times I read the rule book, however how does it work with spells like black horror, that doesn't actually target a unit, they just nominate a point on the board, same with comet.