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Why don't I understand GW???

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:57 pm
by Ehakir
Seems like GW hadn't thought of this:
Beastmaster Scourge, AP, 4 pts. for Master, 6 for Dreadlord
Biting Blade, AP, magical attacks, 5 pts.
The only reason for a Dreadlord to take a Scourge to me would be that he had no points left for the biting blade, but why would you take the scourge if you can take a biting blade for less points?

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:01 pm
by Murmandamus
cause, no sane dreadlord owner would buy them such thing. I can see this item only on champions.

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:02 pm
by Jadin
1 point isn't that much of a discrepancy. The Scourge is a way to get a decent non magic weapon when your points are spent else where.

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:02 pm
by Thanee
Maybe, because it gives +1 Attack also, or +1 AS with a Shield (both while on foot only)?

But seriously, a Dreadlord with a Beastmaster's Scourge or a Biting Blade!?

Bye
Thanee

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:09 pm
by Rork
Those silly people who theme their armies...what are they like?

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:19 pm
by Overmind
Me........ except why would my Dreadlord have a biting blade?

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:21 pm
by Elven prince
Those silly people who theme their armies...what are they like?

Too busy with their real life to think what's efficient and rather go with 'that's the second coolest thing I saw today'. ;)

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:21 pm
by Mordru
If you take lifetaker as your magic weapon choice.

For models on foot that want an extra attack +AP.

As an alternative to the overwhelming horde of characters
with great weapons all over WFB. I will be able to more thouroughly decide when I have some time pouring over the book.

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:24 pm
by Jrg
Crazy GW trying to fool us all......Even More. :evil:

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:42 pm
by Decker_cky
Mordru wrote:If you take lifetaker as your magic weapon choice.


Good call. I'll actually consider doing this.

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:19 pm
by Linda lobsta defenda
Or you already put the Biting Blade on another character?

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:40 pm
by Moonblade
Or you already put the Biting Blade on another character?
- o.O

Yeah, maybe in a 10,000pts game I would have used up all other options and so I will take both Biting Blade and Scourges for the bare-hand characters. Maybe.....

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:04 pm
by Lac.desariel
take the scorge when you take the item dagger of hotek, you gain 2 CC Weapons +1 A and AP too with magic attacks at always strike first.

to me that looks now a bad combo for a corsair theamed lord.

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:32 pm
by Vonkrieglitz
I wonder if you can do that Lac.Desariel because that's not a half bad combo for a cheapo foot lord...

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:53 am
by Izirath
Or a mounted DreadLord. 5 S4 AP attacks? Sounds fair enough at the point cost it comes with.

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:07 am
by Thanee
Mounted won't work for sure, though. The Handweapon bonuses are only for models on foot.

Bye
Thanee

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:59 am
by Haplo
Take the dagger with a scourge and give him potion of strenght.

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:22 am
by Moonblade
Magic Dagger which can be combined with normal hand weapons for an additional attack. Grants the bearer the ASF rule.
- Now, do we know if Scourge is a "normal" hand weapon or just counts as hand weapon for the purpose of combining it with a "normal" hand weapon for the +1 A when on foot. I strongly believe that the second assumption is right and so that renders both the dagger of hotek and the scourge useless IMHO. I presume that the only good option for a foot lord is for him to be within a unit of Black Guards that will surely have the ASF banner anyway so you don't need the dagger....

You can't possibly combine dagger + scourge for a total of 5 ASF attacks with AP I think.

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:42 pm
by Kyrel
I'd agree. The Dagger is a magical weapon, as far as I've understood, and the Scourge is a "mundane" weapon. Since you can't have a magical weapon + a regular one as an additional hand weapon (thus giving you the +1A for an additional hand weapon), then I can't see this combo working. It's a nice thought though.

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:49 pm
by Yuna
<<Dagger of Hotek>> (30 pts) Magic Dagger which can be combined with normal hand weapons for an additional attack. Grants the bearer the ASF rule

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:57 pm
by Mordru
Haplo wrote:Take the dagger with a scourge and give him potion of strenght.


This may be a viable option. All the possible combos....it is great to theoryhammer them.

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:56 am
by Dggrj
Yuna wrote:<<Dagger of Hotek>> (30 pts) Magic Dagger which can be combined with normal hand weapons for an additional attack. Grants the bearer the ASF rule
30pts?? I thought it was 25.. Blast.