Possible cauldron protecting tactic

Entreri bloodletter · Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:12 am

So I've seen the new book at my local store and now that I'm home an interesting thought came to me about the cauldron, more specifically trying to protect it.

Now I know some people may be good at protecting it from Close Combat attacks but now that it moves and will be with the main battle line it may be tougher to defend.

So my idea is that since the Cauldron's "crew" are witch elf hags, you can equip them with the khainite item that removes an attack. Equiq both crew and the WE hero with this and you are looking at much fewer attacks than normal.

I haven't tried this out yet so I have no idea if it would work or if it cost effective but for those that have trouble protecting the cauldron it may be worth looking into.

Dread_knight666 · Post by **Dread_knight666** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:46 am

I think the cauldron has only one hag who rides upon it and the other two are witch elves, so you could only give one the HofK.

Grandmaster ej · Post by **Grandmaster ej** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:53 am

plus i beleive it only works in a challange, however it could be a good idea to give everyone manbane... with a 4+ ward save and a minimum of 13 attacks going back if they all survive... that could be worth the investment

Tigtoad · Post by **Tigtoad** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:12 am

only the hag may buy upgrades. THe other two are champion levels, but it makes no mention of being able to give them gear.

I do like the idea of putting the hag bsb as the cauldron keeper... if you can spare the ASF banner that gives the cauldron 10+ asf poison attacks and an extra +1 combat res. SHould keep skirmishers, fliers, even some monsters at bay.

Entreri bloodletter · Post by **Entreri bloodletter** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:28 am

Hmm too bad they can't take upgrades, oh well guess that idea is out then.

Strollinthewoods · Post by **Strollinthewoods** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:47 am

To be honest? Dont worry at all about it. I actually played a few games i last edition with the Cualdron, and loosing it in hth, is seldom an issue.

Now its even better, having a hero in there, and still beeing lowercosted that it used to be.

Use it as you used to, knowing that its now even stronger in hth. Support units probably wont be able to take it out anyways, and points for you if the try, and loose the units.

Often you will find a suitable forest to walk into.. =)

Oh and if need arises, you can just use harpies, as either a speedbump to set up countercharges, or just redirect, with flee/sacrifice.

I for one think that time will show us that harpies are way undercosted, and that they sureley have overcompansated when they went from 15 pts 0-1 special to 11 unlimited core with generals ld in adition to that.

have them within 12 of the general first turn, and within the 12" of ring of hotec, and youll see why they are grossly undercosted. 3 units will be mandatory in most of my lists.

Count zero · Post by **Count zero** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:59 pm

can the cauldron be deployed inside a unit like the scremaing bell?

Von_wibble · Post by **Von_wibble** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:20 pm

I think the cauldron is considered a unit in its own right and therefore can't join another (p.93 of DE book, "If a Death Hagchooses a Cauldron of Blood, she becomes part of that unit...")

The Cauldron has quite a large range and no LOS requirement which makes things easier. Harpies and 10 man warrior units can protect through redirection. Alternatively a small(ish) unit of Executioners could provide a good shuield - being stubborn, they can be relied upon not to run. This of course uses up a special though.

Decker_cky · Post by **Decker_cky** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:21 pm

No. It's a war machine and moves like one.

Post by **Calisson** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:45 pm

Warmachine confirmed.
As such, it cannot join any other unit, although Khainite characters can join it.
It cannot move inside a building either.

Nightblade183 · Post by **Nightblade183** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:55 pm

Did they come out with a new model for it? I haven't gotten the new book and am anxiously waiting for my copy to arrive.