"Elf Legions" - switching lords
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"Elf Legions" - switching lords
So with our End of Times around the corner and the possibility of an "Elf Legion"...
Has any1 given any thought about switching out their Lord for another elf version?
I personally have, mostly because of Fluff reasons (I'd love to field my Dreadlord on a giant Raven ). But also because I love some of the magic items or special rules.
An Annointed on a Phoenix with the Starlance sounds insanely fun.
Same for a kitted out Glade Lord with the Reroll Succesful Armor Saves weapon.
The one thing which is rly holding me back tho would be the lack of MP ;P i can see all thoss 1's already
Has any1 given any thought about switching out their Lord for another elf version?
I personally have, mostly because of Fluff reasons (I'd love to field my Dreadlord on a giant Raven ). But also because I love some of the magic items or special rules.
An Annointed on a Phoenix with the Starlance sounds insanely fun.
Same for a kitted out Glade Lord with the Reroll Succesful Armor Saves weapon.
The one thing which is rly holding me back tho would be the lack of MP ;P i can see all thoss 1's already
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Equipment: Long sword; Falchion (family heirloom), Very Good Sabre, Short sword, Dagger, Throwing Dagger (4) SeaDragon Cloak, Chain
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Re: "Elf Legions" - switching lords
I was thinking of running a high elf archmage with high magic, over our dark magic. what I am curious about is could you put that model in a unit of warlocks and give them a 3++ or a 2++ from the lore attribute.
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Re: "Elf Legions" - switching lords
Should work. The lore atrribute states that the Caster and the unit increase their Ward save by 1. (to a max of 3+)
Tho talking about casters... a WE gets +1 to cast on all lores while in a forest. could be nice too.
Makes one wonder how the WE forest deploy will work?
Tho talking about casters... a WE gets +1 to cast on all lores while in a forest. could be nice too.
Makes one wonder how the WE forest deploy will work?
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Group 41- Name: Searinox Nagharha - Shade
WS:5 S:3 T:3 D:4 I:4
Equipment: Long sword; Falchion (family heirloom), Very Good Sabre, Short sword, Dagger, Throwing Dagger (4) SeaDragon Cloak, Chain
Inventory: 30 gold (214 still to be paid), Silver Bracelet, several flagons: 1x Strength potion, 3x Courage potion, 3x Healing Potion.
Skills: Two Weapon Fighting, Acrobatics, Basic Stealth
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WS:5 S:3 T:3 D:4 I:4
Equipment: Long sword; Falchion (family heirloom), Very Good Sabre, Short sword, Dagger, Throwing Dagger (4) SeaDragon Cloak, Chain
Inventory: 30 gold (214 still to be paid), Silver Bracelet, several flagons: 1x Strength potion, 3x Courage potion, 3x Healing Potion.
Skills: Two Weapon Fighting, Acrobatics, Basic Stealth
Re: "Elf Legions" - switching lords
Yeah, definitely would consider a mage with high magic.
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Re: "Elf Legions" - switching lords
No chance - I'm staying pure.
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Re: "Elf Legions" - switching lords
Purity is overrated. I was thinking black guard with cob and high magic, hand of glory and walk between worlds and boosted cauldron ward save, rerolling to hit, rerolling to wound, sounds like fun...
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Re: "Elf Legions" - switching lords
I'm a purist at heart but a post on Warseer really made me think.
You want Wildriders? Knights on Dark Steeds.
You want Waywatchers? Specialist Shade Clan.
You want BOWD White Lions? Black Guard.
You want a badass Lord? Put him on a Star Dragon.
So, while I'll definitely keep my pure untainted Druchii, exploring the possibilities with a side-army could be a lot of fun...
You want Wildriders? Knights on Dark Steeds.
You want Waywatchers? Specialist Shade Clan.
You want BOWD White Lions? Black Guard.
You want a badass Lord? Put him on a Star Dragon.
So, while I'll definitely keep my pure untainted Druchii, exploring the possibilities with a side-army could be a lot of fun...
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Re: "Elf Legions" - switching lords
Yeah, it's happening regardless of what makes sense. As pointed out, the concerning thing is that our model line is probably not looking good going forward. We are already missing things, like Kouran, Tullaris, decent Peg model, half-naked chick on deranged rabbit horse etc. Apparently, with no accounting for taste, high elves are 'more' popular, so I'd imagine the fall out from The End Times is that the 'elven' army eventually converges to mostly high elf stuff.
Re: "Elf Legions" - switching lords
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r530 wrote:Apparently, with no accounting for taste, high elves are 'more' popular, so I'd imagine the fall out from The End Times is that the 'elven' army eventually converges to mostly high elf stuff.
...and that is what I wouldn't like to see happening
But I'll save my nerdrage for the dawn of 9th when we will know for sure
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Re: "Elf Legions" - switching lords
Well when Malekith wins (how dare you think otherwise!) I wouldn't be suprised if he starts to reuse old Nagarythian armor and symbols
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Group 41- Name: Searinox Nagharha - Shade
WS:5 S:3 T:3 D:4 I:4
Equipment: Long sword; Falchion (family heirloom), Very Good Sabre, Short sword, Dagger, Throwing Dagger (4) SeaDragon Cloak, Chain
Inventory: 30 gold (214 still to be paid), Silver Bracelet, several flagons: 1x Strength potion, 3x Courage potion, 3x Healing Potion.
Skills: Two Weapon Fighting, Acrobatics, Basic Stealth
Group 41- Name: Searinox Nagharha - Shade
WS:5 S:3 T:3 D:4 I:4
Equipment: Long sword; Falchion (family heirloom), Very Good Sabre, Short sword, Dagger, Throwing Dagger (4) SeaDragon Cloak, Chain
Inventory: 30 gold (214 still to be paid), Silver Bracelet, several flagons: 1x Strength potion, 3x Courage potion, 3x Healing Potion.
Skills: Two Weapon Fighting, Acrobatics, Basic Stealth
Re: "Elf Legions" - switching lords
Loooooooremaaaaaasteeeeers.
I think those guys are really cool and would love to get one in a Dark Elf list, as I'm not too keen about running my level 4s around on a horse or pegasus, and if I don't have to have a bunker then great.
Plus, you know, Book of Hoeth.
I think those guys are really cool and would love to get one in a Dark Elf list, as I'm not too keen about running my level 4s around on a horse or pegasus, and if I don't have to have a bunker then great.
Plus, you know, Book of Hoeth.
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Re: "Elf Legions" - switching lords
Loremasters with end time magic... know every single spell out of the BRB lores.
Add to that the Book of Hoeth and you have incredible versatility. Only downside is they have no access to any mounts.
Add to that the Book of Hoeth and you have incredible versatility. Only downside is they have no access to any mounts.
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Re: "Elf Legions" - switching lords
Loremaster in a block of Executioners, though Excellent conversion opportunities await.
Even without the End Times buff I think they are solid.
Even without the End Times buff I think they are solid.
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Re: "Elf Legions" - switching lords
It remains to be seen how models that have no choice about their spells will fare with the Loremaster upgrade in ET:K.
Mind you, I'd take a HE Loremaster in a heartbeat even without that upgrade.
Mind you, I'd take a HE Loremaster in a heartbeat even without that upgrade.
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Re: "Elf Legions" - switching lords
I have actually yet to see the new rules for the ET:Khaine in the rumours. Mostly heresay on what people believe it says. We now we have SoM spells being introduced and in all likelihood 4D6 magic phases, but I am still to be convinced everyone will be getting the loremaster rule or how and if spells need to be generated.
Knowing every spell could be very different to have access to them in game.
Knowing every spell could be very different to have access to them in game.
Re: "Elf Legions" - switching lords
HE magic and start swamping spells for entire lores.
I totallt see my self using silver helms (knights on horses) I already have 10 elf knight on chaos steeds.
I totallt see my self using silver helms (knights on horses) I already have 10 elf knight on chaos steeds.
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Re: "Elf Legions" - switching lords
Your thinking of the wrong High Magic lore the High Elf one increases ones Ward Save by 1. The Lizardmen one is the one that lets you swap them.
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Inventory: 30 gold (214 still to be paid), Silver Bracelet, several flagons: 1x Strength potion, 3x Courage potion, 3x Healing Potion.
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Group 41- Name: Searinox Nagharha - Shade
WS:5 S:3 T:3 D:4 I:4
Equipment: Long sword; Falchion (family heirloom), Very Good Sabre, Short sword, Dagger, Throwing Dagger (4) SeaDragon Cloak, Chain
Inventory: 30 gold (214 still to be paid), Silver Bracelet, several flagons: 1x Strength potion, 3x Courage potion, 3x Healing Potion.
Skills: Two Weapon Fighting, Acrobatics, Basic Stealth
Re: "Elf Legions" - switching lords
T.D. wrote:I'm a purist at heart but a post on Warseer really made me think.
You want Wildriders? Knights on Dark Steeds.
You want Waywatchers? Specialist Shade Clan.
You want BOWD White Lions? Black Guard.
You want a badass Lord? Put him on a Star Dragon.
So, while I'll definitely keep my pure untainted Druchii, exploring the possibilities with a side-army could be a lot of fun...
This. I can easily see Black Guard and Phoenix Guard being represented by the same or similar models and much else. The conversion possibilities are endless and we are free to claim those models are actually Dark Elves with High Elf rules.
(This is what we're going to do if the elf armies actually stay together, just convert up some units to fit what we want to start using and make up some fluff for them. Considering our army is already fully converted with our own fluff and we have been even thinkin about making it a dual DE/HE army it shouldn't be too hard. )
also for everyone afraid GW will stop making DE models: Raging Heroes are planning a full DE army on kickstarter sometime (early?) next year, so if that happens, we can all switch to their models.
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Re: "Elf Legions" - switching lords
Before your High Elf Mage gets all dressed up to party with Executioners, remember only Khainite Characters can join Khainite units. They still follow the limitations in the rule book. I think my Executioners are going to end up as Sword Masters though. I've never been a fan of Khaine in the fluff but liked the Executioners unit. Now I have a way to keep the models in the army but change them up some.
Someone mentioned it earlier and I can see that being something moving forward for GW.
Elven Spearmen - DE, HE or WE models whatever, they all have the same stat line and abilities. As an example. Phoenix Guard and Black Guard are easy comparisons. But we won't truly know until we arrive at 9th.
Someone mentioned it earlier and I can see that being something moving forward for GW.
Elven Spearmen - DE, HE or WE models whatever, they all have the same stat line and abilities. As an example. Phoenix Guard and Black Guard are easy comparisons. But we won't truly know until we arrive at 9th.
Re: "Elf Legions" - switching lords
Dreadlord dethezal wrote:Before your High Elf Mage gets all dressed up to party with Executioners, remember only Khainite Characters can join Khainite units. They still follow the limitations in the rule book.
That was the old book. current DE book doesn't reference khainite/non-khainite at all. Closest we got is witch elves occasionally stabbing anyone that isn't an assassin or a death hag.
Saying that, i haven't see anything as yet that expressly says we can put HE/WE characters in our units and vice versa, but i would assume its all good as you can with beastmen/woc and the various undeads afaik
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zubus wrote:Dreadlord dethezal wrote:Before your High Elf Mage gets all dressed up to party with Executioners, remember only Khainite Characters can join Khainite units. They still follow the limitations in the rule book.
That was the old book. current DE book doesn't reference khainite/non-khainite at all. Closest we got is witch elves occasionally stabbing anyone that isn't an assassin or a death hag.
Saying that, i haven't see anything as yet that expressly says we can put HE/WE characters in our units and vice versa, but i would assume its all good as you can with beastmen/woc and the various undeads afaik
Welp, my mistake then. It's an option people will have for sure then in friendly uncomped games! Even in my fluffiest of games I wouldn't do that though. But to each their own!