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My experience with Stagedons is a hard one, as I couldn't hurt them with shooting (RBT must concentrate on his flying stuff) and in in combat they are also difficult to deal with ? So therefore the question, how to deal with Stegadons, both shooting and combat.

Medusae, not kidding.
Whilest testing one out I was able to kill a Stegadon in 2 rounds of shooting (one move and fire the other Stand&Shoot)

Granted its not much but it worked other option would be Metal or I Tests. Shadow would have a field day against a Lizard Army

Shouldn't a Master wearing the Cloak of Twilight statistically kill it on the charge?

Searinox Nagharha wrote:Medusae, not kidding.
Whilest testing one out I was able to kill a Stegadon in 2 rounds of shooting (one move and fire the other Stand&Shoot)

Granted its not much but it worked other option would be Metal or I Tests. Shadow would have a field day against a Lizard Army

I tried that last time, but isn't the I of the skink is used instead of the Stegadon ?

@ Phierlihy, I will try that tomorrow then !

Mmh... looking at the Howdaw Crew rule it says that except for close combat the entire Model is threated as a Monster. Tho this might have been overlooked by my opponent and me then.

Tho with T6 W5 you'll have to be lucky to insta kill one on the charge with just 3 S6 D3 Wounds attacks

Searinox Nagharha wrote:Mmh... looking at the Howdaw Crew rule it says that except for close combat the entire Model is threated as a Monster. Tho this might have been overlooked by my opponent and me then.

Tho with T6 W5 you'll have to be lucky to insta kill one on the charge with just 3 S6 D3 Wounds attacks

The model is treated as a monster. This means it is not treated as a ridden monster but as a whole model. Which means for whatever stat test you are forced to make, you use the highest - the skink initiative.

Had it been e.g. a skink chieftain on a stegadon with theoretically no other crew, it is now a ridden monster, and both the chief and the stegadon must test on their own initiative. But the combined monster with crew tests on skink I, just like a bloodwrack shrine would test on the crew I.

As above, a Cloak of Twilight Master/Lord should out a serious dent in it (and may possibly kill it, but not a guarantee).

A Kharibdyss would also do fairly well against it, if you can ensure it survives whilst crossing the board.

As it's only Ld6, Spirit Leech is a really good way of dealing with it. Fortunately, the rest of Lore of Death will work quite well against Lizardmen too.

Vs Lizards I think a Kharibdyss makes a reasonable chance to reach it. but yeah, 5 S7 Poison attacks with the chance to trigger Feast of Bones. That Stegadon aint gonna be happy

@Traundil: good point, will remember it for the next match

While we're discussing magical solutions... since Stegadons have a 3+ Scaly Skin save (IIRC), you could also try Searing Doom.

As has been pointed out, a Kharibdyss will put a serious dent into a Stegadon as well, particularly if boosted with Enchanted Blades (Fangs?), Timewarp or Speed of Light.

Do Not let t charge you. Its main thing is the charge. Everything else is just extra, but if it charges you are in a world of hurt.

Lore of Metal might also help as regular has a dent armor save vi uing it against them, and Anccient has a point short of the standard Knight's armor save. Like Death, it also works well agaisnt lizardmen. Witch Elves with their Poison Attacks In combination of a either Curse of Rust, Trnsmutation, or Blades of Albin would do well.

Shadows could also help, usually weakening its strength, toughness, or movement. If you are lucky to get the Pendulem or the Template spell, do not be afraid to use it.

Death has been mentioned, and the Kharibdyss as well, which is good as death Signiture spell will work wonders, but the K-beast is what I call a Brawler, or a monster meant for fighting heavy duty units.

Saintofm wrote:Do Not let t charge you. Its main thing is the charge. Everything else is just extra, but if it charges you are in a world of hurt.

This. This and this. Stegadons aren't a problem unless they get the charge. Throw a master with a pegasus at it and it will hold. The ancient only has 3 A and the regular 4, so it's not dealing out that much hurt. With the cloak, and regular armor, you likely taking 1 W or less per round of combat. Obviously, if you can charge it in the side and then with someone in the front next turn, that would be best though.

If running a pegasus master(s) and a hydra/kharibdyss, lore of beasts might be an awesome lore here. Amber spear first round, charge with the master second, and hopefully get off wildform or savage beast on the master. Goodbye stegadon. Hell, if you get off savage beast and have the cloak, you don't even need the initial amber spear. You'd run over that stegadon like a ton of bricks.

Obviously overkill if it's just to kill a Stegadon but in a versatile list a general on a dragon should make good work of it if he's equipped reasonably well

Akholrak wrote:As it's only Ld6, Spirit Leech is a really good way of dealing with it. Fortunately, the rest of Lore of Death will work quite well against Lizardmen too.

This is an interesting comment on Lizzies as a whole. Their ld abilities are good because of cold blooded, but their actual statline is generally poor (ld 7, ld 8 and ld 6 for priests). So spirit leaching is solid approach at picking wounds off it.

If I wanted to tailor a list, I would have a lv2 and lv4 of death to ensure that I get two opportunities to spirit leach. And if my opponent brings tetto ecko, then I bring morathi.

My last game against lizzies he charged his stegadon into morathi an SHE survived impact hits went first hit him with magic weapons that Lower his S T An A stats an ripped it apart in one round with sulephet attacks too

I'd never charge with a master if it is unhurt. Soulblight with warlocks, shoot him with RBT and then charge (should cast another soulblight just in case) I'd charge with a peg Dreadlord, ws7 vs 3 (3+ hits vs 5+) more attacks, more survability. Stegadon is Stubb by the way, so flank charge doen't make any difference (if you win ofc). I think a L1 metal Sorceress should be in a competitive list if you don't have anything to deal with hight T or Armor.