Please help a DE newbie
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- Manalord
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Please help a DE newbie
That's my first army list so any advice or feedback is welcome
Highborn on coldone with heavy armour,sea dragon cloak,crimson death and dark amulet (goes with cok's)
Sorceress on coldone lvl2,tome of furion
Sorceress lvl2 dispel scroll,dark stars cloak
Assassin with additional hand weapon, manbane and rune of khaine
20 spearmen with shields and full command
12xbowmen with full command
5 dark riders with xbows and musician
16 corsairs with full command and banner of massacre
7coldone knights with full command and banner of massacre (+1d3 to
combat res)
16 executors with full command and banner of massacre
12 harpies
2 rbt's
12 black guards with full command and banner of fear
It is average 2600 points
I wonder if it's not better to replace corsairs with executors and if the assassin is worth. What about the magical banners?
I'm french so excuse me if i make english mistakes.
Thank u for helping!
Highborn on coldone with heavy armour,sea dragon cloak,crimson death and dark amulet (goes with cok's)
Sorceress on coldone lvl2,tome of furion
Sorceress lvl2 dispel scroll,dark stars cloak
Assassin with additional hand weapon, manbane and rune of khaine
20 spearmen with shields and full command
12xbowmen with full command
5 dark riders with xbows and musician
16 corsairs with full command and banner of massacre
7coldone knights with full command and banner of massacre (+1d3 to
combat res)
16 executors with full command and banner of massacre
12 harpies
2 rbt's
12 black guards with full command and banner of fear
It is average 2600 points
I wonder if it's not better to replace corsairs with executors and if the assassin is worth. What about the magical banners?
I'm french so excuse me if i make english mistakes.
Thank u for helping!
- Lord Thalack
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Hey
I would give the highborn gauntlet of power and crown of black iron.
Never put a sorceress on a cold one, it's to unreliable. If you have the model convert her onto a dark steed.
You can't give 2 units the smae banner. So you should drop at least 2 banners of slaughter(massacre)
Give the COKs banner of murder.
Try to get another unit dark riders> they're one of the best thing s in our army. And I would drop the rxbmen to make other units bigger: add 2 COKs and 4 corsairs
Bye
Lord Thalack
I would give the highborn gauntlet of power and crown of black iron.
Never put a sorceress on a cold one, it's to unreliable. If you have the model convert her onto a dark steed.
You can't give 2 units the smae banner. So you should drop at least 2 banners of slaughter(massacre)
Give the COKs banner of murder.
Try to get another unit dark riders> they're one of the best thing s in our army. And I would drop the rxbmen to make other units bigger: add 2 COKs and 4 corsairs
Bye
Lord Thalack
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OK, I wouldn't aim so high from the start. Get say 1,000 points, and work out where to go with your army from there. I'd reccomend checking out the Beginner's Guide to the Druchii in the Articles/Essays forum, it's not that bad.
Your list is pretty balanced, I'd just mess around with the numbers a bit.
Spearmen really are a matter of taste, but if your going for an offensive army get Corsairs. Speaking of Corsairs, try and up the unit size to 18 (6x3) or 20 (5x4). The crossbowmen are rarely effective, but can serve as disruptors of fast cavalry. Speaking of fast cavalry, try to get more Dark Riders. They really are essential to the Druchii. Two units should be enough in 2,500 points.
The Cold One Knights could do with maybe a couple more to make them able to auto break units on the charge,it's a really useful ability. And the Executioners are too small, with only a 6+ save they need more models.
The Black Guard really are to small, either forget them or drop something else to take them up to atleast 15.
The basic idea seems solid, though!
Fallen Angel
Your list is pretty balanced, I'd just mess around with the numbers a bit.
Spearmen really are a matter of taste, but if your going for an offensive army get Corsairs. Speaking of Corsairs, try and up the unit size to 18 (6x3) or 20 (5x4). The crossbowmen are rarely effective, but can serve as disruptors of fast cavalry. Speaking of fast cavalry, try to get more Dark Riders. They really are essential to the Druchii. Two units should be enough in 2,500 points.
The Cold One Knights could do with maybe a couple more to make them able to auto break units on the charge,it's a really useful ability. And the Executioners are too small, with only a 6+ save they need more models.
The Black Guard really are to small, either forget them or drop something else to take them up to atleast 15.
The basic idea seems solid, though!
Fallen Angel
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I don't know what are gauntlet of power and crown of black iron. They must be some albion campagn magic items right?
If i take another unit of dark riders i think i'll throw the harpies. I have a question about them: on the photos in the army book they're placed like skirmishers but in their description it's not mentioned. So are they skirmishers or not?
I thought that since the blackguards are stubborn they don't need to be a lot.
If it can help us to help me i'll play against chaos khorne army,dark elves an high elves[/b]
If i take another unit of dark riders i think i'll throw the harpies. I have a question about them: on the photos in the army book they're placed like skirmishers but in their description it's not mentioned. So are they skirmishers or not?
I thought that since the blackguards are stubborn they don't need to be a lot.
If it can help us to help me i'll play against chaos khorne army,dark elves an high elves[/b]
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Hello. Never been a great fan of crimson death myself, and the gauntlet is better as was said. The sorceress really shouldn't be on a cold one (again, already said). I prefer to give my assassin black lotus instead of manbane. Its so much more fun and in character. If you plan on going after T4 guys or higher, then go with the manbane. I'd make the spearmen into corsairs (matter of opinion really) and take the banner from the corsair unit to make them a unit of 20. The banenr won't help them much. I'd also replace the RXBmen with more DR. In an offensive army, they are much more useful and can actually join the fight. The harpies are nice but in this army I might want to replace them with shades to delay the enemy enough and provide a distraction in the rear (if scenery permits) to enable you to get all elements into position. A black guard unit of US 12 isn't going to have much use for the fear causing banner. The COK could also be a bit bigger to get that ever so nice autobreak. Its so fun to see you're opponent's face when you do that to a unit of chaos chosen warriors with the general inside and run them down.
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Hello Mana lord
I`m a no0b too
but I`ve collect DE enough to know
that you can`t use the same banner twice
and it`s black Amulet but it`ll give
your HB an edge in battle cos if you pass
the ward save It`ll bounce back at the striker
( enemy ) and nothing else, you`ve
made an exelent army
I`m a no0b too
but I`ve collect DE enough to know
that you can`t use the same banner twice
and it`s black Amulet but it`ll give
your HB an edge in battle cos if you pass
the ward save It`ll bounce back at the striker
( enemy ) and nothing else, you`ve
made an exelent army
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LizardMind, Young lord wrote:Hello Mana lord
I`m a no0b too
but I`ve collect DE enough to know
that you can`t use the same banner twice
and it`s black Amulet but it`ll give
your HB an edge in battle cos if you pass
the ward save It`ll bounce back at the striker
( enemy ) and nothing else, you`ve
made an exelent army
Um... He may have been a noob 2 years ago in OCTOBER 2002!!! Man, you reserected a two year old thread....
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