Drake and the Glar'Nar-Touth, 1000 Points

Darmort · Post by **Darmort** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 8:34 pm

this is my Campaign list, so, here it is.

Noble: Drake Everslayer.
Blood Armour, Life Taker, Sea Dragon Cloak, Second Hand Weapon.
130 Points

20 Warriors: Ever Spears.
Shields, Full Command.
185 Points

20 Warriors: Ever Guard.
Shields, Full Command.
185 Points

5 Dark Riders: Everslayer Riders.
Repeater Cross Bows.
120 Points

10 Shades: Dark Shadows.
140 Points

10 Shades: Everslayer Shades.
140 Points

1 Reaper Bolt Thrower: Khaine's Anger.
100 Points

Fluff:

Drake looked at the Glar'Nar-Touth Warriors, each of them with a heavy heart, coming so far so fast tired the forces out, Drake himself was tired, sole Command but for the two Spearmen Leaders was hard, ever since he returned to Naggaroth he had turned to the Glar'Nar-Touth, his former Warriors for support, he then led them to Ghrond, and now to the Watch Towers, his Orders from the lord there were to hold the Tower, no matter what, if not able, fight to the last Warrior.
Well that wouldn't take long, he thought.

Jeffleong13 · Post by **Jeffleong13** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 8:49 pm

Please make sure you put the Fluff in the F&B Forum as well so that everyone can see it.

Thanks,
Jeff

Manwe · Post by **Manwe** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:31 pm

Looks like a solid list... It laks some real punch though. maybe take of a unit of shades and exchange it for some punch, like executioners or CoK, maybe a chariot?

Darmort · Post by **Darmort** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:33 pm

no, in the Glar'Nar-Touth there are no Chariots, Executioners or Cold One Knights.
The Glar'Nar-Touth fight with a lot of shooting scouting units (hence the Shades) and ambushes, they fight with Cross Bow and Sword and Spear, some times a Bolt Thrower.
if it were me Dark Elf army i'd take a unit of Execs though.

Lethalis · Post by **Lethalis** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:34 pm

and ambushes

Yet only one DR unit?

Darmort · Post by **Darmort** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:50 pm

I only have 1 Dark Rider Unit, and I intend to play with this list as soon as my brother agrees to play.

Deathraider · Post by **Deathraider** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:49 am

It seems good, but why not split the 2 units of 10 shades into 4 units of 5

Darmort · Post by **Darmort** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:44 am

they're Special Choices, in 1000 Points I can only get 3 units of them.

Lethalis · Post by **Lethalis** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:58 am

So what are you going to do against magic? Let's pit a random CoP list against it:

Sorc, MoS, lvl 2, Darkstar Cloak

12 Devoted, mistress, musician
10 rxb warriors
5 Shades

5 Mounted Daemonettes
12 Chaos Warriors, MoS, full command

1 Reaper

This army has easily enough firepower to kill your DR, and you will have great problems oppressing the slaaneshi magic. The devoted and Mounted Daemonettes are both high priority targets, and can cause your spearelves a lot of trouble through the number of attacks and flank charges, so you'll need to choose which one to focus on. Also, the general is a high priority target, so you'll have too few troops to stop everything. Instead of taking sooo many Shades, pulling on or two out of each unit gives you enough points for the Seal on a beastmaster. He may seem easy to kill, but his shades need to either stop yours or kill the beastmaster.

Darmort · Post by **Darmort** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:06 pm

how to beat that List:

My brother will be using my Dark Elves and I don't have any Daemonettes, yet.

the Devoted I will Squewer with my Reaper.

My Dark Riders aren't ment to be good, they're there for Fluff Reasons, if they do well, YAHOO! if not, I didn't expect them to do well anyway.

The Chaos Warriors are the only Unit that will be a problem for me, aswell as the RXBmen, my Shades can deal with the Warriors, but the Chaos Warriors I can't think how, maybe my Spearmen can hold them up for a while untill my other Spearmen can Flank them.

the Shades can also get the Sorceress good enough.

those tactics should work.
I hope

Lethalis · Post by **Lethalis** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:06 pm

So, do you have any idea what your brother does have? Would be a lot easier to give advice on that.

And as for the chaos warriors: how about flanking them with DR?

Darmort · Post by **Darmort** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:18 pm

if they survive, as I said, Dark Riders are for Fluff reasons only.

my Brother will either use Skaven, the list you can find on Land of Chill
Here: http://s6.invisionfree.com/The_Land_of_Chill/index.php?showtopic=28&st=0&#last

and the Dark Elf Cult army he'll use (He asked me to give hima force with a lot of Attacks) is here

Sorceress: Scythe Iena
Level 2, Slaaneshi, Darkstar Clock, Dispell Scroll
195 Points

12 Devoted: Slaanesh's Brides
Standard, Mistress, Warbanner
193 Points

12 Devoted: Morathi's Chosen
Standard, Mistress
168 Points

16 Marauders: Halkmir's Berserkers
Full Command, Shields, Light Armour
137 Points

12 Chaos Warriors of Slaanesh: Gathganner's Battle Veterans
2 Hand Weapons, Full Command, Rapturous Standard
304 Points

thats the Slaaneshi Cultist list, I know its Assaulty, but my Brother said he wanted to chop me up with lots of Attacks, A.K.A. no shooting, he hates shooting except with his Skaven.

Deathraider · Post by **Deathraider** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 3:17 pm

Oh yeah I forgot about that

Lethalis · Post by **Lethalis** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 3:28 pm

Sorceress: Scythe Iena

Hunt her down fast. Shades are prolly best.

12 Devoted: Slaanesh's Brides
Standard, Mistress, Warbanner
193 Points

12 Devoted: Morathi's Chosen
Standard, Mistress
168 Points

About 360 points of non-armoured T3 girls, need I say more?

16 Marauders: Halkmir's Berserkers
Full Command, Shields, Light Armour
137 Points

Let them charge, and then flank with DR. Panic test on Ld7 and most likely a break test on Ld6 or less. DR will help you run them down.

12 Chaos Warriors of Slaanesh: Gathganner's Battle Veterans
2 Hand Weapons, Full Command, Rapturous Standard
304 Points

*cough*reaper*cough*. And a flank with the DR could work too.

Darmort · Post by **Darmort** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 3:32 pm

Lethalis wrote:
Sorceress: Scythe Iena

Hunt her down fast. Shades are prolly best.

12 Devoted: Slaanesh's Brides
Standard, Mistress, Warbanner
193 Points

12 Devoted: Morathi's Chosen
Standard, Mistress
168 Points

About 360 points of non-armoured T3 girls, need I say more?

16 Marauders: Halkmir's Berserkers
Full Command, Shields, Light Armour
137 Points

Let them charge, and then flank with DR. Panic test on Ld7 and most likely a break test on Ld6 or less. DR will help you run them down.

12 Chaos Warriors of Slaanesh: Gathganner's Battle Veterans
2 Hand Weapons, Full Command, Rapturous Standard
304 Points

*cough*reaper*cough*. And a flank with the DR could work too.

is that all? I thought my brother would of thought of something to counter these by now... he's smart with a 3D mind.....

Lethalis · Post by **Lethalis** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 3:39 pm

Like he can do something about it. You can put your Shades anywhere near the sorc, so she'll be dead before turn 3 with some crossbow luck. Nothing much to do about it there.

As he has no missile fire, he has to come to you. You shoot him while he comes. Nothing much to do about that.

If his marauders come close, he's bound to charge you. Nothing much he can do about it. Place your DR such that if he wants to charge them first, he exposes his flank. Then he can't do much about that too.

His warriors will have little oppertunity to walk behind screens. So they will expose themselves to the Reaper. Nothing much he can do about that.

He may know all of this, but does he know how to avoid it?

Beastmaster kurlan · Post by **Beastmaster kurlan** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:42 pm

great list. it definately matches your fluff.

Mitharath · Post by **Mitharath** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 9:44 pm

Skip something for second Reaper B. Thrower, it will be better.
Blood armour may be good idea, you will have 0+ armour save aganist CC and -1+armour save aganist Missle, so aganist dwarf army you will have 2+ armour save. But it would be true if you kill four dwarves and survive run before your charge...
Skip lifetaker for seal of Ghrond or Dispel scroll.
And finally... Why the hell you have 20 Shades?? 15 is enought.

Darmort · Post by **Darmort** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 8:28 am

not for Fluff
first off, i've not got any friends who play Dwarfs yet, and my dad is still learning the rules (he has a load from the 1st and 2nd Editions I think)
20 Shades, yeah! I love Shades, for 140 Points for 10 their worth it!
especially when shooting Devoted!
I only have 1 Reaper
and i've got enough Shooty for Magic Defence

Lethalis · Post by **Lethalis** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 12:37 pm

Since we've been stuck on this several times, I shall ask:

what do you have available?

Darmort · Post by **Darmort** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 4:15 pm

5 Dark Riders

24 RXBmen/Shades

40 Spearmen with 2*Full Command

a bunch of Nobles and Highborns, about 15 in total, a few on 5th Edition Cold Ones (no Magic in the Glar'Nar-Touth though)

11 Executioners Full Command

36 Corsairs with 2*Full Command

plenty of proxy Warriors from the 5th Edition

1 Reaper

Malus Darkblade

5th Edition Cauldron of Blood

a few more Corsairs that haven't been finished (old 5th Edition ones that i'm changing the Axes to Spears from the Warrior Boxed Sets)

Mengil Manhide's Manflayers

and thats it in a wrap

yum, wrap,
Darmort