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Recommend a second army for me

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 6:27 am
by Rhakinlanthari
Hi D.net,

I play dark elves. I have about 2000pts painted and about another 2000 left to go with painting. I'm not thinking about giving them up. What I am thinking about is getting a smaller second army for WHFB which will be used in addition to my DE, to vary it up a bit when I play warhammer. My main two criteria for this new army would be:

1. Something that plays with a different style to my dark elves.
2. Is fun to play, but still competitive.

I am open to other suggestions for why army x would make a good addition to my collection, so feel free to give other reasons too.

If you play armies other that Druchii, let me know what you think of them, and why you'd recommend a dark elf player pick up a 1000-2000pts force of it as a second army.

I was going to make this a poll but it complained about too many options, so you'll have to type out a response, preferably with some justification for why you would suggest that particular army.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:38 am
by Dark Alliance
I went with Orcs and Goblins myself. In the past I have tried various Chaos incursions but the greenies are great fun.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:58 am
by The exile
My next project when my DE army is finnished is going to be a Vampire counts army...Unless i swing around and go for chaos or lose my mind and stroll over into 40k.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:09 am
by [llct]kain
Hi,

I had the same though 3 month ago.
My first asset to this was to classify that DE are Eliteforce and are not good to pick up the fight right into the face (gets sometimes very annoying if big nasties just walk to your line and do not care about your troops).

So I ended with the decission to go for a mass army - last step were Skaven and Mortal Chaos horde. I decided for a merauder horde... but now I postponed it a bit, because the new book will be soon out (so painting 130 merauders just to realise that they will be droped ?).

Last weekend the final decisioon fell - I bought the new Demons book and read and read and ... I will nedd an army :-)

To sum it up:
Skaven
or Deamons would be my suggestion

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:34 am
by Slortor
i went for vampires due to being given a lot of models for them. I then did BoC which i love to bits - they're a good army to do after DE as they kep the generally good movement but ive you different things to think about (good T and bad Ld as opposed to elves) so it gives you a new playing style without having to start all over again...

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:45 am
by Aginor26
Wood elves are fun but very similar to druchii.
Orcs & Goblins are very different from Druchii, you ALWAYS have fun playing them, but they are unreliable to a certain extent in terms of competitiveness.
Vampires Rock--great new models, book, solid army and muuuch different from Druchii.

3 recommendations, but as always, play the army you want. Im working on an orc force because orcs appeal to me, the range is good, and the rules are fun. Other armies might be more competitive, but i wouldnt touch a dwarf or skaven army with a 10 foot pole, i just dont like those armies. With that in mind pick the army you'll have the most fun painting/playing.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:40 pm
by Layne
What about Ogres? They're about as utterly different to DE as it gets? Bikeninja, speak to the guy!

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:46 pm
by Hateshighelves
After looking through the Daemons book, I'm thinking of finally painting up my plaguebearers and trying a Nurgle army. They are totally NOT druchii and I like alot of the models. I'm not too worried about winning, I play dark elves after all.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:53 pm
by Scareypete
As secondary army to Dark Elves... that is Fun...

Skaven or Orcs I suppose are fun. Plus the Horde army plays so completely differently from Druchi.

otherwise you can Play a Human Horde as well... Empire or Mortals of Chaos (unless the mortals of Chaos new book screws you)

Of course if you want 2K points really quick with few models to purchase and paint... I would say bretonia, Ogres or Deamons.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 3:30 pm
by Sedro
How about some evil painted Wood elves?but that would be very similar to druchii, I play WE and those are great fun(go for 2 dragons if your list grows up to 3000)

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 3:35 pm
by Draknir
Orcs/Ogres could be fun. I've thought of trying out Orcs at some point. My little brother plays them, and I know enough of them to say that they are a very fun and competitive army.

Hmm. Somehow it feels as if I've recommended Orcs to someone else also...

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 3:37 pm
by Jadin
I suggest Orcs

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:33 pm
by No one
chaos mortals, they are so diffrend from DE:
great combatpower, really though and still good ld (at least warriors etc.)

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:45 pm
by Jadin
Id hold off on Chaos Mortals until you see the new book though.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 5:52 pm
by B*tch elf
go skaven! lots of fun, instead of worrying about a few dark elf deaths that can ruin your chances of winning, try shooting into your own ranks to increase your chances!!!

i love em

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:41 pm
by Oldone
I would suggest Orcs also - very different to DE, fun and also competitive if you want.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:31 pm
by Drek
I'm having a ton of fun with Khorne Beastmen. Minotaurs are great fun, they still move fast, but they hit like a ton of bricks. And there are units that can actually take a charge, which is nice. And no magic or shooting is quite different too. I love 'em.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:02 pm
by Dalamar
I went with Slaanesh Daemons for second army as I have leftover models lying around after Cult of Pleasure was made more or less illegal.
Other than that I'm planning on building Skaven force as a nice opposite of Dark Elves
Shooty horde army vs. Melee focused elite army :)

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:10 pm
by Lord woulfe
I think lizardmen would be good, as they are different yet similiar to dark elves, so you would not need to relearn a whole new strategy, gust adapt your old one to skirmishers, closer ranged weapondry, and units that are good in close combat

Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 3:16 am
by Voiddisciple
I've had a lot of success playing Dwarfs after letting my Dark Elves hit the shelf. Putting together enough troops to start an army is stupid easy with the skull pass dwarfs all over ebay, and you can just phase 'em out as you get ahold of real plastics.
Whatever you do, I'd recommend at least something with some guess-range shooting. It's something that we don't get to do a lot, and I've found that they help me with making long-distance charges enormously.

Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:05 pm
by Calisson
I started with DE, then raised an Empire army after a very careful selection.
The two armies are extremely different.
With Empire, you can have lots of cheap infantry (with detachments that bring interesting options), tons of artillery, armor-piercing fireweapons, very heavy cavalry as base unit (and non-stupid), and the fearsome tank. The magic is cheap, you can select all 8 aspects. The fun risky part is the chance to fail artillery and risk auto-explosion (same with engeneers' pigeons). On the other hand, you loose the high command value, hardly anybody flies, so it is a very versatile army overall. I have more fun with them that with present-day DE.
Oh by the way, one is "good" when the other is "bad", so during mega-tounaments where the "good" fights the "bad", you can select to join the less numerous.