Tamurkhan: The Throne of Chaos

Lord tsunami · Post by **Lord tsunami** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:57 am

So... now we are supposed to buy literature from GW to get some new rules for warhammer? it is an incredibly expensive book. i am not sure i understand fully what it is. Is it nerd-porn or new rules, or both? will the rules be official?

One good thing at least. since it is a book, it will be easy to download it for free. i am not paying that kind of price for a book that isnt a new rulebook (and i dont like to do that even then :/)

ps. yes i know downloading (stealing) is illegal and immoral. spare me the lecture.

Ming · Post by **Ming** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:00 am

I'm not sure I understand your point.
Are you complaining about the price of the book...
because you'd like to read it? Or are you complaining about the book usefulness in game terms? Or both?

I think it's a sort of campaign book with new tailored chaos and empire armies (those army books are required to use Tamurkhan).

It seems really really optional to me............
Nonetheless, Empire fans and Nurgle fans should consider buying it.

Silic · Post by **Silic** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:15 pm

It does seem to be a wholly optional supplement to WFB. Even as an Empire player, though, I would not purchase that, at that insane price, just for some new rules. If I want to use a model, I can just integrate it into my current army using the standard rules we already have.

Even past that; I can't justify spending ~$90 on the story (it had better be one amazing story).

Saintofm · Post by **Saintofm** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:25 pm

Silic wrote:It does seem to be a wholly optional supplement to WFB. Even as an Empire player, though, I would not purchase that, at that insane price, just for some new rules. If I want to use a model, I can just integrate it into my current army using the standard rules we already have.

Even past that; I can't justify spending ~$90 on the story (it had better be one amazing story).

I'm in the same camp. Storm of chaos and the main books are one thing, this is another.

Plus, arnt there supose to be three more coming out, so even more of a money pit?

Assani · Post by **Assani** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:58 pm

Isn't that what GW is all about, steeling our money with insane prices? :evil:

Saintofm · Post by **Saintofm** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:07 pm

Assani wrote:Isn't that what GW is all about, steeling our money with insane prices?

Yes, but comeon! and where is our Chaos Dwarf Book? Is it in the Tarkum book?

Brad · Post by **Brad** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:08 pm

It's the WFB equivalent of the Imperial Armour books for 40k. Totally optional.

Post by **Dalamar** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:39 am

Imperial Armor is almost mandatory if you play Apocalypse on a regular basis.

I'd expect these books to be aimed similarly, at people playing a lot of Storm of Magic.

Sulla · Post by **Sulla** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:44 am

As far as I know, Tamurkhan is pretty similar to the IA campaign books; Army lists and campaign scenarios. Not compulsory at all.

There is a rumour of a book solely containing Storm of magic scrolls of binding for forgeworld monsters.

Lord tsunami · Post by **Lord tsunami** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:11 am

i said it when they did storm of magic, i said it when they did dreadfleet and ill say it again:

THIS IS ALL TIME AND MONEY THAT THEY COULD SPEND ON FIXING WOODELVES, DWARFS, AND ALL THE OTHER BROKEN TEAMS.

GWs top scientists sat down and thought to themselves "how can we make the game better so that ppl will continue to buy our products?" and the answer they came up with was "a 200 page full color storybook about a maggot living inside an ogre". fascinating :/

Persuader · Post by **Persuader** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:00 pm

I got my copy yesterday and I love it.
Its a very high quality book and our gaming group was looking for a campaign anyway

Thetosh · Post by **Thetosh** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:26 am

Lord Tsunami wrote:i said it when they did storm of magic, i said it when they did dreadfleet and ill say it again:

THIS IS ALL TIME AND MONEY THAT THEY COULD SPEND ON FIXING WOODELVES, DWARFS, AND ALL THE OTHER BROKEN TEAMS.

GWs top scientists sat down and thought to themselves "how can we make the game better so that ppl will continue to buy our products?" and the answer they came up with was "a 200 page full color storybook about a maggot living inside an ogre". fascinating :/

Just because they're working on one thing it doesn't mean they're ignoring another. Do you think they only focus on one project at ta time? That while dreadfleet was being modeled and written that the entirety of GW staff were working on it? Guess what, they weren't.

Post by **Dalamar** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:46 am

Tamurkhan is made by Forgeworld.

The other books are made by Games Workshop.

I see no conflict of interest, they don't take away people from writing say "Wood Elves" to make them write Tamurkhan and its like.

Geist · Post by **Geist** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:45 am

My only problem with this is, the chaos dwarf rules are not official. SOB SOB SOB. I have said it since ravening hordes, if they will bring back Chaos Dwarfs I will play them. The chaos dwarf army is everything I have ever wanted in an army. Tough hard hitting lil dudes, soild magic and warmachine support. Whats not to love?

Persuader · Post by **Persuader** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:00 pm

Geist wrote:My only problem with this is, the chaos dwarf rules are not official.

Pretty sure they are official.
I'll give you the page were this is noted after work.

Dark reaper · Post by **Dark reaper** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:45 pm

Yeah, the whole "this should be considered an official warhammer army list" pretty much indicates that it is in fact official.

Kefka · Post by **Kefka** » Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:22 am

I am sorry, but I am astonished at some of the complaining coming out of this.
It is all optional in there, think of it as an expansion you don't really need.
It also has (from my knowledge) two armybooks in there. The Chaos Dwarfs, and a buttload of toys for Warriors of chaos. There is also campaign rules in there as well, so really, you are getting three books in one. It is also great quality, on par with the collectors edition rulebook (leatherbound, parchment paper, full colour)

I don't own it myself, but my friend just got his yesterday and I had a look through, it is a good book. But as I said, optional, no one is telling you to buy it, so I don't see where the complaining is coming from...

Silic · Post by **Silic** » Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:48 am

Any complaining looks to stem from other things concerning GW. Now... if we were all chaos dwarf players, and in order to play legally we needed to purchase a $90 book, well then that is something different.

Dark reaper · Post by **Dark reaper** » Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:55 am

Tbh, the book is definitely worth it. It has some cool scenarios, extra stuff for Chaos and Empire and the Chaos Dwarf list. I can't wait to use some of the CD stuff in my Chaos list.

Persuader · Post by **Persuader** » Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:04 pm

Yea by time I got home a was hammerdrunk so....
I'll try again tonight

Brad · Post by **Brad** » Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:59 pm

It cost me less than $80 Aus including shipping and currency conversion charges. Considering the rulebook retails for $124 and new-style army books for $69, I don't think that's an excessive dollar value.

Silic · Post by **Silic** » Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:29 pm

I would love to see a review of what anybody who bought the book thinks are its strong and weak points. Price, content, style, etc.

Persuader · Post by **Persuader** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:00 am

weak points:
- price maybe

strong points:
- next level art
- Campaign options/rules
- SoM monsters
- Chaos Dwarfs
- Fluff
- very strong hardback, good quality.