I want to start a small Nippon army 500 pt

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I want to start a small Nippon army 500 pt

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Hey guys,

I need your opinion on this Nippon unnificial list (made with this book http://issuu.com/m4cr1ii3n/docs/warhammer__-_nippon).

I'll start small. so I wrote this list

500 pt

Shugenja lv 2 fire ruby ring of fire 125pt

basicly a lv 2 wizard nothing special M4 isn't that good so i opted for fire and it's devestating in smal point games


21 ashigura bowmen 136 pt
musician Mon of the ashiwara clan( rerol ones to hit with bows and no penalty for long range)

they have only bs3 but they act like having 4 almost always (because no penalty for longe rang). they gain also the benefit of rerolling ones to hit and that for 6points a model. they have 'only' 24 inch. dirty cheap if you ask me!


26 ashigura spearmen fc 134 pt

normal spearmen with ws 3 and they fight in an extra rank so 4 ranks


mangonel 105 pt
mon of the botake clan (rerol artillery dice once per battle)

basicly a stonethrower with flaming attacks


what do you think of this? OP or is it too weak.
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Re: I want to start a small Nippon army 500 pt

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While these books are interesting and you can play them with your friends, the more usual way of running nippon is using another book like HE or DE as the basis and then just running your units using stat lines from their books for your troops.

WE

glade guard = ashigaru archers
eternal guard = yari ashigaru
wild riders = samurai cavalry
dryads - samurai infantry

DE
shieldless spearmen = yari infantry
crossbows = ashigaru arquebusiers
shielded dark riders = cavalry
black guard = samurai infantry

You get the idea anyway.
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A good book.

No Samurai?

I´m thinking to begin this army too but I have no idea where to get the minis.
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Re: I want to start a small Nippon army 500 pt

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At first I laughed at the word "Nippon" but it's actually a really good book. There's a definite potential for OP shenanigans, but the pts you have is possibly too small for that to be the case - yours looks reasonably balanced.

Heh, Nippon !lol!
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Sort of on topic;

On Gnosis' PnM thread there is a link to the Perry brother's miniature store.

Some really cute Nihonese models to be found :)
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Re: I want to start a small Nippon army 500 pt

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I'll repear the link specifically to the Sengoku Jidai stuff the Perrys have here:

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/index.php?cPath=23_38

However, there's another company that does plastics for the period:

http://wargamesfactory.com/webstore/rising-sun

These plastics are nowhere near as nice as the Perry Miniatures pewters, but they're significantly less expensive to collect.
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Interesting Link. Thanks!
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Re: I want to start a small Nippon army 500 pt

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Thats my test list:
Nippon Fandex (8th Edition) (Standard) Selections:
Heroes (225pts)

Shugenja (125pts)

Hand Weapon, Wizard Level 2 (35pts)
Magic Items (25pts)
Arcane items (25pts)

Dispel Scroll (25pts)
Magic Lore

Lore of Kami
Taisho (100pts)

Death before Dishonour, Kenjutsu, Way of the Warrior

Daimutzu (15pts) (Daimatzu), Heavy Armor, Katana

Core (658pts)

Samurai Warriors (258pts)

Death before Dishonour, Kenjutsu, Way of the Warrior

Heavy Armor, Katana, Musician (10pts), Samurai Chui (10pts), Standard Bearer (10pts)
19x Samurai Warrior (228pts)

19x Additional hand weapons (19pts), 19x Daimutzu (19pts) (*)
Samurai Warriors (150pts)

Death before Dishonour, Kenjutsu, Way of the Warrior

Heavy Armor, Katana, Musician (10pts), Samurai Chui (10pts), Standard Bearer (10pts)
10x Samurai Warrior (120pts)

10x Long bows (20pts)
Yari Ashigaru (130pts)

Fight in Extra Ranks

Hand Weapon, Light Armor, Musician (10pts), Spear, Standard Bearer (10pts), 20x Yari Ashigaru (100pts), Yari Gashira (10pts)
Yumi Ashigaru (60pts)

Bow, Hand Weapon, Light Armor, 10x Yumi Ashigaru (60pts)
Yumi Ashigaru (60pts)

Bow, Hand Weapon, Light Armor, 10x Yumi Ashigaru (60pts)

Special (65pts)

Ronin (65pts)

Kenjutsu, Skirmishers, Unbreakable

Katana, Light Armor
5x Ronin (65pts)

5x Additional hand weapons (5pts)

Rare (50pts)

Flaming Arrow (50pts)

Flaming Arrows, War Machine
Crew

Hand Weapon, Light Armor
Crew

Hand Weapon, Light Armor
Crew

Hand Weapon, Light Armor



By the way.....wrote with my battlescribe file (v.0.9 beta). Still a little to do on it.
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Re: I want to start a small Nippon army 500 pt

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Can't help you at all on the rules side of things, but I'll be painting and photographing some of the Perry Miniatures samurai range over the next month. Those interested in using the Nippon fandex might be interested.
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