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Enjoy - and yes The Glotkin has 12 wounds and Yes Karl Franz will be pushing your stool in.


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Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:07 pm
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Holy shiz those Karl Franz rules. 9 Wounds with 3+ Armour Save, 4++ Ward Save, 2++ vs Spells, and 10 attacks which wound automatically with no armour saves causing D3+1 wounds each.

WTF?!

Edit: The wording of Daemonic rules now seem to suggest the Daemon Prince is Unstable and Unbreakable...


Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:25 pm
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Yeah Daemons basically crumble like Undead now it appears. Karl is straight up nasty. I wonder what the Elven super crazy character will be.... Avatar of Khaine?

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Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:39 pm
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He is only T5 at least - maxing out RBTs is going to be a must me thinks....

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Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:42 pm
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On average? About ~25 RBT shots. Yeah, no.


Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:44 pm
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So combined profiles do/can get armor and ward saves, that is pretty tough.


Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:58 pm
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Looks like combined profiles will be coming to the standard rules soon.
Will certainly give monster riders a boost.

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Here I was terrified of the Glottkin, yet I think he's kind of workable. Karl Franz is outrageous. Think I'm broadly in favour of combined stats... once we all have them. Hope we get our update early in the queue - whichever army book is waiting until last for an upgraded special character runs the risk of being smeared, over and over again.

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Well, if this is the shape of things to come then Dragon Lords with Cloaks are going to be just as terrifying. 9 S6 Attacks with ASF, Murderess Prowess, D3 Wounds and Killing Blow. Chuck on the Obsidian Blade, Ogre Blade, Fencer's Blades or Sword of Anti-Heroes for good measure.


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On average? About ~25 RBT shots. Yeah, no.


Not following Clockwork?

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We had 40k Space Jesus ...now we have Empire Fighty Jesus!!! :shock:

At least we can Purple Sun the Glottkin :twisted:


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Holy shiz those Karl Franz rules. 9 Wounds with 3+ Armour Save, 4++ Ward Save, 2++ vs Spells, and 10 attacks which wound automatically with no armour saves causing D3+1 wounds each.


Black Amulet is our friend in this new era of Apocalypse FB ;)

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Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:55 pm
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Olliewood wrote:
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On average? About ~25 RBT shots. Yeah, no.


Not following Clockwork?


Well, RBTs do 2 wounds on average, right? And he's got 9 wounds. So you need to get 4-5 bolts passed his Ward save, and as that ignores half the wounds done then you need to have wounded him around 10 times.

With RBTs wounding T5 on 3s, you need to have hit him about 15 times to deal 10 wounds.

To have hit him 15 times, then you would have had to fire 25 RBT shots (assuming hitting on 3s, otherwise its only just another 5 shots). Thats a ton of shots which I just don't see happening in the normal course of a game.


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Well, RBTs do 2 wounds on average, right? And he's got 9 wounds. So you need to get 4-5 bolts passed his Ward save, and as that ignores half the wounds done then you need to have wounded him around 10 times.

With RBTs wounding T5 on 3s, you need to have hit him about 15 times to deal 10 wounds.

To have hit him 15 times, then you would have had to fire 25 RBT shots (assuming hitting on 3s, otherwise its only just another 5 shots). Thats a ton of shots which I just don't see happening in the normal course of a game.


Math.

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T.D. wrote:
Black Amulet is our friend in this new era of Apocalypse FB ;)


+1 to that. When play testing Druchii with cereal packets that was the go to item for killing my regular opponent's various greater daemons. Definitely needed now.

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Glottkin can be used in Warriors of Chaos or Legions of Chaos? So it sounds like Chaos is leaning towards one force again? Ive been reading a few articles that speculate about that...

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Malys the younger wrote:
Glottkin can be used in Warriors of Chaos or Legions of Chaos? So it sounds like Chaos is leaning towards one force again? Ive been reading a few articles that speculate about that...


Yes, the new End Times book has the rules to combine all the Chaos forces, not that this wasn't already possible if you used the Tamurkhan rules.

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Clockwork wrote:
Holy shiz those Karl Franz rules. 9 Wounds with 3+ Armour Save, 4++ Ward Save, 2++ vs Spells, and 10 attacks which wound automatically with no armour saves causing D3+1 wounds each.

WTF?!

Edit: The wording of Daemonic rules now seem to suggest the Daemon Prince is Unstable and Unbreakable...


where's the wording of the Daemonic rules been changed?


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Olliewood wrote:
Yeah Daemons basically crumble like Undead now it appears. Karl is straight up nasty. I wonder what the Elven super crazy character will be.... Avatar of Khaine?


Haha, can you imagine? Wonder how the Eldar Avatar is selling... :roll:


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I'm thinking a dual kit Aenarion Reborn (Tyrion) / Malekith on an Uber-Dragon 8)

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T.D. wrote:
I'm thinking a dual kit Aenarion Reborn (Tyrion) / Malekith on an Uber-Dragon 8)


Nice :)

Sure we will get something uber.
Sword of Khaine wielding mega elf? :burns:

Or by the look of the trend so far, a brand new monster with 3 variants riders. (Dark,High & Wood?)

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I got a game in against Glotkin last night. Purple Sun - that is all.

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Olliewood wrote:
I got a game in against Glotkin last night. Purple Sun - that is all.


:burns: !lol!

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lol yeah, with I1 Purple Sun, Pit of Shades and maybe (just maybe) even Pendulum will all become a threat to him xD

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Just picked up my Ltd Ed copy. Absolutely lovely soft touch finish to the cover and nice extras. Very happy to have spent a little more.
Has a poster sized map of Altdorf and of the Empire with the invasion routes plus some great additional artworks.

Talking to the GW manager he said he had a queue outside the shop an hour before opening but only had 5 copies.

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