Chaos Mechanized

Deathrain-commander · Post by **Deathrain-commander** » Mon May 09, 2005 1:38 pm

I'm working on building a Chaos Space marines army that is entirely mechanized. No Daemonic gifts that can't be explained through machinery (to wit: Daemonic Strength means his arm is mechanical and therefore stronger, Daemonic Flight means he has a jetpack etc.) no Daemons, No Daemon Princes, No Psykers (cause after Eldar all other Psykers seem pathetic) and I was hoping for help on this. So far I've decided that I'll probably use Iron Warriors for my army list. Any suggestions on what to take/ tactics?

Arquinsiel · Post by **Arquinsiel** » Mon May 09, 2005 2:10 pm

Tzeentch's psychic power is pretty much a lascannon from what I remember.

Anyway, mechanised just means all infantry units are mounted in APC's, I think you're more trying to go for an iron hands army but for chaos. Am I right?

Deathrain-commander · Post by **Deathrain-commander** » Mon May 09, 2005 2:27 pm

More or less. I'm more trying to get a Mechanized Chaos army by the standards set in my first post. This does not mean I can't take things like Warhounds or Obliterators: Just my Obliterators have their Daemonic Gifts replaced by Machinery and the Warhounds are mechanical (I am willing to model if necessary) see http://www.druchii.net/viewtopic.php?t=35245 for my started Iron Warriors army. Also I have seen Abbadon fall to Mind War (I kid you not... mind you it was horrible rolling on Chaos side but...)

Arquinsiel · Post by **Arquinsiel** » Mon May 09, 2005 2:45 pm

I've seen it too but it can happen. Which are you trying to do?

Xizor · Post by **Xizor** » Mon May 09, 2005 3:03 pm

for your mechincal warhounds you could use the Inquisitor cyber mastiff

Deathrain-commander · Post by **Deathrain-commander** » Mon May 09, 2005 3:47 pm

I'm just creating a Mechanical army for fluff reasons (gonna write a fanfic about them) and I was hoping for advice on what to put in it.

Arquinsiel · Post by **Arquinsiel** » Mon May 09, 2005 3:58 pm

I'm still not sure what you mean by mechanical (given your previous posts). You could always just make an army based around the followers of furnex, that wouls involve huge amounts of machinery. In fact, all daemonic mutations would be spontaneously generated bionics and suchlike.

Deathrain-commander · Post by **Deathrain-commander** » Mon May 09, 2005 7:30 pm

That's what I'm doing

Arquinsiel · Post by **Arquinsiel** » Tue May 10, 2005 2:32 pm

They'd still count as whatever but you'd have to medel suitably mutated bits all over the place. You could have any daemonic gift you wanted, even daemonic flight with mechanical wings would work. Any daemons you want to take could be represented by auling a few necrons and sticking bits on, cyber mastifs as suggested before, large amounts of tanks and bikes. Probbably at least one bionic part per marine. Just find yourself a chaos army that you like and start converting.

Deathrain-commander · Post by **Deathrain-commander** » Tue May 10, 2005 2:58 pm

Now your getting it. I am using Iron Warriors as my army. And I wouldn't need to convert Bionic parts on base marines, I could use painting.

Arquinsiel · Post by **Arquinsiel** » Tue May 10, 2005 3:31 pm

Nah, put bionics on all of them. Just random bionics. They'd take the place of the normal marks of chaos.

Derathini · Post by **Derathini** » Tue May 10, 2005 6:52 pm

use the rules for iron warriors then take lots of oblitarators, possesed (daemon fueled enhancements) basliks and vindicator aslo take a war smith (techmarine) take lots of infantry and tool them up.
why no daemon prince? your primarch is a daemon prince
heres my idea for one-
mark of undivided, Kai gun, strength (special arm) toughness (more more endurable armour,) deamon armour (Artificer armour) aura (little toys toys get in the way) bionics (obvioius) melta bombs and power weapon.

you can buy iron warrior squads which have bionic parts already.

Arquinsiel · Post by **Arquinsiel** » Tue May 10, 2005 6:55 pm

toughness (more more endurable armour,)

Or Nanite's that patch up wounds too fast for them to kill him.

BTW, what's a Kai Gun actually do? I've seen it mentioned several times but never got around to looking it up.

Derathini · Post by **Derathini** » Tue May 10, 2005 6:57 pm

it is a daemon weapon (gun) ignore marine armour because of ap and has 2 shots Str 5

Arquinsiel · Post by **Arquinsiel** » Tue May 10, 2005 7:00 pm

Ah, thanks. Characters only I presume? It sounds like a pretty good choice for a cultist of the machine god.

Pmpn8ez · Post by **Pmpn8ez** » Tue May 10, 2005 7:40 pm

If by characters you mean only HQ, I don't think so. If by characters you mean them and aspiring champions and the like, yes only they may take it because it is a piece of wargear (and, as with all other daemon weapon types, is 0-1).

Arquinsiel · Post by **Arquinsiel** » Tue May 10, 2005 7:56 pm

By characters I mean any model capable of taking wargear.

Pmpn8ez · Post by **Pmpn8ez** » Wed May 11, 2005 2:20 am

Then in that case, you'd be right.

Deathrain-commander · Wed May 11, 2005 12:46 pm

I already have a basilisk but for the rest of my Heavy Support I'm taking: Land Raider (I just gotta be me) Dreadnought and Havoc's (I once saw an Iron Warriors army with 4 units of Havocs: Scary) Daemonic Armor is now called Fused Armor (the armor is fused onto his body) and Aura is called Renforced armor. As for my Warsmith he is a chaos lord with Mechanical Arms (daemonic strength) Terminator Armor, Chainfist, Servo Arm, 4 Metal Hounds (Warhound) and a Mechanical Monstrosity (Chaos Spawn). I'll probably give him a retinue in Terminator armor, I'll have to buy some possesed and Obliterators go witout saying. by the way what should I take for my 1 fast attack choice: Raptors or Bikers?

Psychologic · Post by **Psychologic** » Wed May 11, 2005 1:09 pm

Bikers, they would go great with the theme: Chaos Space Marines fused to their bikes.

_SJ

Derathini · Post by **Derathini** » Wed May 11, 2005 3:30 pm

defineatly bikers, i think raptors are a waste of points.
that 0-1 on the kai gun means only one daemon weapon period not just on kai guns but all daemon weapons eg take kai gun means no darkblade.
also i think you should take advantage of being able to take vindicators as they skill norms and horde armies with equal ease. fear factor nobody likes walking into line of sight of a demolisher cannon. its even better under the new rules on ordinators. if you want it drop the havocs as they can still only fire at one target. and the vindicator will kill more (even tanks due to high Str.)
i think about it i also play iron warriors and all my oppenents fear this machine and given parastic possesion can make it extremely suviveable alo bring daemonic possesion
sorry i have rambled on for so long

Arquinsiel · Post by **Arquinsiel** » Wed May 11, 2005 3:36 pm

the armor is fused onto his body

So chaos armour then? You seem to have a good idea of what you want though, maybe post a list.

Derathini · Post by **Derathini** » Wed May 11, 2005 3:43 pm

yeah please post a list of what you want so we can try and give spefic help if needed

Deathrain-commander · Thu May 12, 2005 11:53 am

all they are is the Daemonic Gifts/ Weapons renamed and refluffed to fit to mechanical. The only one I can't come up with is Daemonic Chains and that one doesn't matter (as it pertains to Greater Daemons and Iron Warriors can't have em). I'll post the listing of the Renaming and Refluffing as soon as I finish it. In the meantime could someone please review my 500 point Iron Warriors list?