Looking for Feed back on a Dark Eldar Idea
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- Lac.desariel
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Looking for Feed back on a Dark Eldar Idea
having never played a Dark Eldar army before Im looking for people that have either played or used the Dark Eldar for feed back
heres what i have.
Archon Agoniser, Shadow Field, Splinter Pistol
Incubi x 5 with Raider
Haemonculus x 3 Sizor hand + Stinger ( to join each raider squad)
Mandrakes 8
Wyches x 10 with Raider, Plasma Grenades
Raider Squad 9 Raider with Dark Lance,Blaster x 2, Splinter Cannon x 2
Raider Squad 9 Raider with Dark Lance,Blaster x 2, Splinter Cannon x 2
Raider Squad 9 Raider with Dark Lance,Blaster x 2, Splinter Cannon x 2
Ravager 3 x Disintigrator
Ravager 3 x Disintigrator
Talos
1497 points
the whole army is on raiders and so very mobile and fast i carry 5 dark lances on 5 diff vehicals, and disitagrators are for light armour and AP 3 popping
I understand its brittal and easily damaged but its dark eldar.
Discuss please and help me find a good start from what you know,
Thanks
heres what i have.
Archon Agoniser, Shadow Field, Splinter Pistol
Incubi x 5 with Raider
Haemonculus x 3 Sizor hand + Stinger ( to join each raider squad)
Mandrakes 8
Wyches x 10 with Raider, Plasma Grenades
Raider Squad 9 Raider with Dark Lance,Blaster x 2, Splinter Cannon x 2
Raider Squad 9 Raider with Dark Lance,Blaster x 2, Splinter Cannon x 2
Raider Squad 9 Raider with Dark Lance,Blaster x 2, Splinter Cannon x 2
Ravager 3 x Disintigrator
Ravager 3 x Disintigrator
Talos
1497 points
the whole army is on raiders and so very mobile and fast i carry 5 dark lances on 5 diff vehicals, and disitagrators are for light armour and AP 3 popping
I understand its brittal and easily damaged but its dark eldar.
Discuss please and help me find a good start from what you know,
Thanks
- Danceman
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1. I´d really get wych weapons on your wyches, also a succubbi with agoniser and pistol makes a huge difference.
2. Your raider squads may only have 1 blasters and cannon per squad. Would advice the same approach as above, a syb with agoniser.
3. I would probably ditch the haemonculi completely. They´ve never done anything for me, never.
4. You lack dark lances IMO.
So here´s what I´d do. Ditch the haemonculi, upgrade the squads as above.
Get a "sniper squad" of 10 warriors with 2 DLs.
Spare points... hmm might want to give your archon combat drugs, or ravagers shadow fields or whatnot.
Dont have the codex with me, so cant help on exact costs.
Cheers!
2. Your raider squads may only have 1 blasters and cannon per squad. Would advice the same approach as above, a syb with agoniser.
3. I would probably ditch the haemonculi completely. They´ve never done anything for me, never.
4. You lack dark lances IMO.
So here´s what I´d do. Ditch the haemonculi, upgrade the squads as above.
Get a "sniper squad" of 10 warriors with 2 DLs.
Spare points... hmm might want to give your archon combat drugs, or ravagers shadow fields or whatnot.
Dont have the codex with me, so cant help on exact costs.
Cheers!
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- Vorchild
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I agree fully with danceman. The general idea is rather good (all raider army) but there are bits that could be changed. The Dark eldar army I'm currently using is almost all raiders and it looks like this:
Archon (combat drugs, shadow field, agonizer, pistol, trophy rack) with 4 incubi and 2 warriors with cannons
Raider with horrorfex and trophy racks
5 warp beasts and packmaster
5 wyches, wych weapon, 1 blaster, plasma grenades
succubus, agonizer, pistol
Raider with horrorfex and trophy racks
5 wyches, wych weapon, 1 blaster, plasma grenades
succubus, agonizer, pistol
Raider with horrorfex and trophy racks
10 warriors, blaster, cannon
Raider with horrorfex and trophy racks
13 warriors, 2 cannons
3 jetbikes, 2 blasters
3 jetbikes, 2 blasters
Ravager, 3 disintegrators
Ravager, 3 dark lances
Archon (combat drugs, shadow field, agonizer, pistol, trophy rack) with 4 incubi and 2 warriors with cannons
Raider with horrorfex and trophy racks
5 warp beasts and packmaster
5 wyches, wych weapon, 1 blaster, plasma grenades
succubus, agonizer, pistol
Raider with horrorfex and trophy racks
5 wyches, wych weapon, 1 blaster, plasma grenades
succubus, agonizer, pistol
Raider with horrorfex and trophy racks
10 warriors, blaster, cannon
Raider with horrorfex and trophy racks
13 warriors, 2 cannons
3 jetbikes, 2 blasters
3 jetbikes, 2 blasters
Ravager, 3 disintegrators
Ravager, 3 dark lances
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I almost thought some commetns were wrong then I looked back over the list....
Now, I've played Dark Eldar for a while(1st army) and I think that for this type of Army I'm completly useless.
I play an infantry force with few radiers so my Haemonculi are useful. However this makes my expertise non-raider heavy armies(got banned for a week from transports at all in club games. I stopped playing a raier army after that).
I think Danceman's advice makes the most sense especially that "sniper" squad. That has taken down more then a few heavy enemy tanks
Now, I've played Dark Eldar for a while(1st army) and I think that for this type of Army I'm completly useless.
I play an infantry force with few radiers so my Haemonculi are useful. However this makes my expertise non-raider heavy armies(got banned for a week from transports at all in club games. I stopped playing a raier army after that).
I think Danceman's advice makes the most sense especially that "sniper" squad. That has taken down more then a few heavy enemy tanks
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Rabidnid wrote:Yeah, I'm only just starting out with these guys but agonisers are just about the ultimate weapon in 40k.
Depending on what you want your archon to do, a punisher/tormentor helm combo can also be useful. Its almost always better when going after infantry, and you can combine it with other gear (combat drugs and the one that gives a permanent +1 s) to get up to S6 which is better against pretty much anything.
Personally, I still always go with the agonizer as well since I use my archon to hunt wraithlords and wounded tyrants and fexes.
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- Lac.desariel
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ok great thanks for feed back so soon. I will look in to some changes.
With regards to wych weapons they are free I understand, altho my dex is that old I cant find vehicals upgrade in my book, so might pick up a new one later.
I noticed you take units of 5 wychs, is that enough i was thinking large squads = large number of attacks to kill with
the idea behind the Haemonculus was to acompany the warriors for extra combat punch, but I will take the advice and use a sybarite instead
With regards to wych weapons they are free I understand, altho my dex is that old I cant find vehicals upgrade in my book, so might pick up a new one later.
I noticed you take units of 5 wychs, is that enough i was thinking large squads = large number of attacks to kill with
the idea behind the Haemonculus was to acompany the warriors for extra combat punch, but I will take the advice and use a sybarite instead
- Lac.desariel
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Im thinking I have an older dex, altho still the same cover. I have no vehical upgrades and no idea how I can get St6 on my lord. Punisher and drugs hes only St 3
Thinking they must have a newer dex.
Overmind why did you get banned from using raider armys are they harst or 'cheese' altho i hate that saying.
Thinking they must have a newer dex.
Overmind why did you get banned from using raider armys are they harst or 'cheese' altho i hate that saying.
- Danceman
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Never heard of Raider DE armies being cheese before, WWP is usually what gives most people headaches. In other words, I wouldnt worry.
Punisher + drugs + animus vitae(or something like that).
IMO it's worth investing in the updated codex. There are a few useful things in that one.
Punisher + drugs + animus vitae(or something like that).
IMO it's worth investing in the updated codex. There are a few useful things in that one.
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Nah, they aren't my friends are just psycopaths who like having ultiment power. Also they don't like to overuse anything(some freaking wierd comp rules they have in deed)
Which I then won in a tournament. So technically i can easily use a raider army, I just don't want to I guess. Your army is in no way cheese.
You however must get thtat new book, it has a big "Second Edition" stamp on it.
Which I then won in a tournament. So technically i can easily use a raider army, I just don't want to I guess. Your army is in no way cheese.
You however must get thtat new book, it has a big "Second Edition" stamp on it.
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Talos can't move 12"
it's treated as a walker in all respects except for going over terrain (it gets wounded on a roll of 1 like bikes)
It can only move 6" and assault 6" which makes it rather slow in fast army.
Use of portals is recommended if you plan on using Taloi.
it's treated as a walker in all respects except for going over terrain (it gets wounded on a roll of 1 like bikes)
It can only move 6" and assault 6" which makes it rather slow in fast army.
Use of portals is recommended if you plan on using Taloi.
7th edition army book:
Games Played: 213
Games Won: 114 (54%)
Games Drawn: 33 (15%)
Games Lost: 66 (31%)
8th Edition army book W/D/L:
Druchii: 36/4/16
Games Played: 213
Games Won: 114 (54%)
Games Drawn: 33 (15%)
Games Lost: 66 (31%)
8th Edition army book W/D/L:
Druchii: 36/4/16