Pinning in 5th Ed

Drizz't · Post by **Drizz't** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:11 pm

Has anyone noticed that pinning in 5th ed is per weapon now, and not per unit?

Can anyone concur?

Deadlydeception · Post by **Deadlydeception** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:01 am

Yep. Time to break out the sniper squads

Post by **Dalamar** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:19 am

hmm. really? that would actually made my gunboat list work.
Shame there's so many fearless units out there who don't really care about pinning.

Arquinsiel · Post by **Arquinsiel** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 5:31 pm

Wait... damn... this means my mortar-spam list has to be worked out one template at a time... god-dammit.

Kargan daemonclaw · Post by **Kargan daemonclaw** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:53 pm

But a unit fires together you don't roll your sniper weapons separately.

Each time a unit takes casualties from pinning weapons you take a pinning test, just as you did in 4th ed. You can now chose to fail a test by going to ground. Rather than the 25% casualties where the test is taken at the end of the shooting phase.

Also you can still fall back after being pinned if you take sufficient casualties.

Arquinsiel · Post by **Arquinsiel** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:06 pm

A single WEAPON can cause multiple WOUNDS with mortars, which also have pinning. Hence each template needs to be worked out seperately for the purposes of enumerating pinning tests.

Drizz't · Post by **Drizz't** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:02 pm

Kargan DaemonClaw wrote:But a unit fires together you don't roll your sniper weapons separately.

Each time a unit takes casualties from pinning weapons you take a pinning test, just as you did in 4th ed. You can now chose to fail a test by going to ground. Rather than the 25% casualties where the test is taken at the end of the shooting phase.

Also you can still fall back after being pinned if you take sufficient casualties.

So what if a unit fires together? All that has an effect on is time and rolling "To Hit's," nothing else. If you read the rule is Test Per Weapon, not weapons. If it were as 4th ed, why wouldn't the wording be as 4th ed?

thus if you take 4 unsaved wounds from 4 sniper rifles, you take 4 pinning tests.

Demetrius · Post by **Demetrius** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:07 pm

You never take more than one test per phase.

Drizz't · Post by **Drizz't** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:55 am

Demetrius the Betrayer wrote:You never take more than one test per phase.

Not true, the BGB specifically states that it is possible to be forced to take more than one pinnign test per phase

Hali · Post by **Hali** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:47 pm

[quote=Drizz't]Not true, the BGB specifically states that it is possible to be forced to take more than one pinnign test per phase[/quote]

Any chance of a pg reference for that?

Drizz't · Post by **Drizz't** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:57 pm

Hali wrote:[quote=Drizz't]Not true, the BGB specifically states that it is possible to be forced to take more than one pinnign test per phase

Any chance of a pg reference for that?[/quote]

Page 31

4th paragraph under pinning

As long as the tests are passed, a unit may be called
upon to take multiple Pinning tests in a single turn,
but if a unit has already gone to ground, no further
Pinning tests are taken.

Zardock · Post by **Zardock** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:13 pm

And thus did Snipers become really fun to use.

Hali · Post by **Hali** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:43 pm

Like they wheren't fun enough with rending ^.^

Cheers for the page reference and timely reply.

Dragonshaman27 · Post by **Dragonshaman27** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:37 pm

Makes Scout Squads more efficient