Shadow Arena - Out of Character Discussion

Post by **Drainial** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:09 pm

Its less spectaculer than cuting of their head. Not by much I will admit but this way you get more blood plus you can toss the head into the cheap seats and let the crowd forget their dignity and scramble for it. It works in ball games after all.

Post by **Kinslayer** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:22 pm

So, who is interested in there being a Deathmatch II?

51la5 · Post by **51la5** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:13 pm

I'm in.

Post by **Drainial** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:28 pm

Definatly interested.

Post by **Kinslayer** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:30 pm

In that case I shall get right to making a recruitment thread. There are only likely to be one or two more turns of Deathmatch I and the winner is welcome a spot in Deathmatch II with their character.

Raneth · Post by **Raneth** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:46 am

That would be Dalamar.

Just remember it's largely thanks to me you're going to be able to bring down Threkki! He's a tough *bleep*.

Post by **Dalamar** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:20 am

Anything can happen

T'keela · Post by **T'keela** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:18 am

Me of course. I'm rolling a vampire! =P

Post by **Kinslayer** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:45 pm

Just another thing I wanted to bring up now...

I have just reread the entire mechanics and character creation posts and refined them. It may therefore be necessary for you to reread some things, though the main thing I corrected was the removal of Medium Armour. Heavy armour now has the same hinderance but less movement penalty. Carrying a large shield also now gives a movement penalty. This means armour saves can be maxed out at 2+ (heavy armour, large shield, helmet) but this leaves only room for a single hinderance point in weapon selection. I hope that makes sense. Basically, no more 1+ armour saves.

Also, what are peoples opinions on the special abilities? Are there any that you feel are overpowered or unfair?

T'keela · Post by **T'keela** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:44 am

No problems with the abilities I like the idea of them though I generally forget I have them.

I did have a few queries/etc questions;
1) Do spears use 2 hands? In TT they don't but you haven't mentioned in the weapon posts what weapons are 2-handed and what aren't. I can assume Great Axes, Great Swords, Halberds are 2-handed but was just curious about spears.
2) Would you be willing to add Shurikens/Throwing Knives in the next Deathmatch? Simply to add some flavour and I'm not a fan of carting around big shooty weapons, I'd rather something I can quickly launch at an opponents face while makign a tactical retreat during combat.
3) In the other RPGs the general concensus is that you cannot use two weapons of varying size together, I was curious as to whether this is the same in Deathmatch? Say is using two Long Swords together acceptable or would I be penalised?
4)I had an idea for a weapon; Daggers - pretty much the same as short swords except they increase the chance to disarm someone, this is due to the fact that they are small and you could easily block with say a mainhand weapon then use a dagger to make a stab at someones fingers or slash at their wrist or whatever.

Other than that I loved the first two, good luck to Daltheira and I'm keen for the third.

EDIT: Got spears and shields mixed up...some how...

Deroth · Post by **Deroth** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:02 am

Just have a question about armour saves, are they modified by attackers strength?

Also are shields destroyable or are they indestructible?

By the way im keen for the next one but wont add my profile until this one is over, that ok?

EDIT:

T'Keela wrote:
1) Do spears use 2 hands? In TT they don't but you haven't mentioned in the weapon posts what weapons are 2-handed and what aren't. I can assume Great Axes, Great Swords, Halberds are 2-handed but was just curious about spears.

Look in this thread here http://www.druchii.net/viewtopic.php?t=60935
It tells you what weapons are 2handed and which are not

4 - Character Weapons
Pick your characters weapons from the following list, checking the names beside them to make sure that your selected race is able to use such a weapon. You may never take more than one ranged weapon. The number beside the weapon, marked with a h, is its hindrance value. Weapons and armour both have hindrance values, and your characters total hindrance may never exceed 6. If a weapon has a * next to it then it requires two hands to wield. You may take as many weapons as you wish, up to your total hindrance value, but may only ever use a single two-handed weapon, pair of one-handed weapons or a one-handed weapon and a shield at any one time.

Short Sword - High Elf, Dark Elf, Human, Marauder (h1)
Long Sword - High Elf, Dark Elf, Human, Marauder (h2)
Great Sword* - High Elf, Dark Elf, Human (h2)
Hand Axe - Dwarf, Chaos Dwarf, Marauder (h1)
Great Axe* - Dwarf, Chaos Dwarf (h2)
Spear - High Elf, Dark Elf, Human, Marauder (h1)
Mace - Dwarf, Chaos Dwarf, Human, Marauder (h1)
Warhammer* - Dwarf, Chaos Dwarf, Human, Marauder (h2)
Halberd* - High Elf, Dark Elf, Human, Marauder (h2)

Short Bow* - High Elf, Human (h1)
Long Bow* - High Elf, Human (h2)
Repeater Crossbow * - Dark Elf (h2)
Crossbow* - Dwarf, Chaos Dwarf (h2)
Sling - Human, Marauder (h1)

Post by **Drainial** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:10 pm

I just have one point, halbards, shouldn't they have a long reach, if great weapons do then surely a halbard should.

Post by **Kinslayer** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:13 pm

You tend to hold a halberd two handed, with one hand quite near the head to be able to deliver more powerful blows. Therefore it's reach is not equal to that of, for example, a spear. I hope that makes sense. Any more views on the matter?

Shield should be destroyable I guess, perhaps able to bust if hit by a Str7+ hit on a 4+ chance? As for armour saves, I was modifying them in a similar way to in warhammer. If a character with a save of 4+ was hit by Str 6 hit, it goes down to 5+, Str 7 then 6+, and so on. So same as Warhammer but starting modifiers at Str6 not Str4.

Yes, the two handed weapons were listed.

Throwing Stars and Daggers are a posibility. Give me a while to think on it, any more views?

Kajchi · Post by **Kajchi** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:22 am

Never mind the last OOC post in my IC post, I will be able to post tomorrow.

Post by **Kinslayer** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:30 pm

Just to let everyone know I am leaving for Holland on Monday and will not be getting any internet access until the weekend after. I hope Deathmatch I will complete itself before I leave, so that Deathmatch II can launch on my return.

Deroth · Post by **Deroth** » Mon May 04, 2009 1:00 am

DAMN, I'm always killed by the last person left. Ah well good job Dalamar, I'll get you next time :twisted:

Post by **Kinslayer** » Mon May 04, 2009 11:45 am

Deathmatch II will be starting next weekend, so sign up while you still can guys!!

Post by **Drainial** » Sat May 09, 2009 9:27 pm

Presumably we still use this thread for Death Match II?

Post by **Kinslayer** » Sat May 09, 2009 9:35 pm

Indeed we do, and if it does end up turning into a big pit of spam I can delete and remake it every now and then to stop people gaining post count through pointless comments here. If kept on topic (ironic, since this is the off topic Shadow Arena thread) it shall remain like so.

Sidorio · Post by **Sidorio** » Sat May 09, 2009 11:43 pm

Damn it. If there's an allaince I might just be screwed over very quickly.

Post by **Drainial** » Tue May 12, 2009 6:51 pm

Considering T'keela decided to wander off and fight dwarfy it doesn't make much of a differance. For the moment at least.

T'keela · Post by **T'keela** » Wed May 13, 2009 11:58 am

Eh well Like you know I was worried the humie and the dwarf would be like, "Oh my god lets hold hands and skip towards the assassin and sit on his face while hacking at his legs with swod and axes." So I decided I'd be like rawrrrr! run into the dwarf hopefully kill him kcik the humie in the nuts run over to Drainlal and save his elvish beehind!.

Raneth · Post by **Raneth** » Wed May 13, 2009 2:31 pm

Mako didn't want to get involved, but the crowds can be nasty here.

Post by **Drainial** » Wed May 13, 2009 10:07 pm

I have to say, that plan did not go all that well.

EDIT: Am I reading the rules wrong or does diliverence mean instant death for any evil player now that the damage points have gone down?

Post by **Kinslayer** » Mon May 25, 2009 8:29 pm

Congratulations to Deroth in winning in DmII.

I have a busy few weeks ahead but the next Shadow Arena game, when it happens, will not be a Deathmatch but something new. I'll keep you posted.

Thanks all!