our race never accomplishes anything

[Dalamar]

Dropping an army from sales? not really.
Changing it, yes, definitely.
High Elves kicked off Ulthuan, sailing to their forgotten and abandoned colonies, meeting a cold welcome from their kin who felt abandoned, having to adjust to the cold reality of leaving outside of ulthuan.

Only thing I see is opportunity for new units and increased sales!

[Malus99]

"what you fear is the unknown" change is a risk, as the old saying goes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[Drainial]

An elven army driven from Ulthuan and forced to adapt to the harsh reality of life byond the blessed isle and going to lands known in the old colonial days, now if only GW did an army like that. Maybe they could call them Dark Elves.

[xFallenx]

From what goes around rumourwise we cannot accomplish anything because of realworld preferences. There has been some discussion when the big campaign (don't remember the name) had the bad boys, especially druchii, leading just close to the end. Then Teclis worked a miracle and suddenly a lot of HE generals, without any intrigue at court managed to work together and list victory over vitory.

I think that the world is kept static to keep all (major) armies in the game and the players liking their armies. No major thing would be accomplished because it might put people of the game or a specific army at least.
Should we really conquer Ulthuan, HE would be out. Dropping an army from sales? Not likely.

Buzzkill. But absolutely right.

[Tah kazak rik]

Well I have to say that Dark Elves are accomplished in some ways:

*Managed to create War between Dwarves and High Elves, which broke the strength monopoly of both races. This is one of our grandest achievements.

*Have been responsible for the deaths of a few Phoenix Kings

*Manage to constantly pressure High Elves, which prevents them from assisting the Humans with full capacity

*Manage to spread fear world wide of "our" raiders and slavers

*Manage to maintain control of Huge land claims, much larger than the Empire

*Manage to maintain reputation as rutheless killers and powerful mages.

*Have the most skilled assassins of any race

*Manage to maintain the longest dynasty of any ruler in history

*Manage to cling to our holdings without the assistance of any other race, unlike the Dwarves and Humans
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So yeah I would say we are accomplished.

[Tzelok]

Warmachine/Hordes manages to move the story line forward without pushing any of the armies out. If privateer can do it I don't see why GW can't? I mean what would be so wrong with having high elves lose and having to take refuge with their Imperial allies for example?

[Camaris]

Blondshade, if you want to read some fluff about really badass DE, I would highly recommend the Malus Darkblade novels. It's pretty much six novels of watching the guy take out armies by himself.

Anyway, the reason that DE are portrayed as getting their asses kicked all the time is because the majority of the fluff centers around the HE-DE war. The HE fluff dictates that they would pretty much die before they got kicked out of Ulthuan, so if the DE were to get a major victory against them, it would be the end of the HE army.

I am wishlisting that when the new dex comes out, it will have less fluff about the civil war, and more fluff about the piracy aspect of the DE and their wars against chaos in the north. This will no doubt show more of DE winning, since they are the best pirates in the world. I understand that a significant portion of fluff would still have to be dedicated to the civil war. However, I don't think that ninety-five percent of it needs to be covering the civil war. -shrugs-

[Layne]

Or indeed that it be written from a Dark Elf perspective this time. And that they get rid of that silly thing about Tullaris destroying a village because he didn't like it's name. As if he was ever going to not destroy the village.

*Manage to cling to our holdings without the assistance of any other race, unlike the Dwarves and Humans.

Of course, that's all in the definition. "Assistance" could mean many things. Some of the races' "assistance" has been most valuable.