Drachuau of Karond Kar

Kajchi · Post by **Kajchi** » Mon May 09, 2011 3:57 pm

So, I've been wondering...

Who would the Drachau of Karond Kar be? To me the most logical answer would be beastlord Rakarth. But when reading the Malus Darkblade books, it's sadi that some guy named Nerein the cruel is Drachau...

The only reason I can think of is that Rakarth is rather young, and thus hadn't yet risen to power during Malus' visit to Karond Kar. Seeing as in the current timeline Malus has already gotten his soul back and has become Drachau of Hag Graef it could be possible. Any other ideas or opinions?

P.S. For any that don't know, the Drachau is the leader of a Druchii city.

Saintofm · Post by **Saintofm** » Thu May 12, 2011 10:42 am

Official fluffchanges from time to time, so things might have changed since then.

Also, the kast Dracau may have met an untily accident while training a hydra, and our belovid beastlord had to take his responsabilitis as ruler of the city :twisted:

Dialeth · Post by **Dialeth** » Thu May 12, 2011 9:51 pm

Ok
1st Malus books are settled several decades back from the curren fluff point ( Malus got his soul back, then go to albion´s campaign, there earns some disttinctions from there to the latest invasion of ulthuan, where aftewr Kouran being killed by Tirion becomes general)

2nd Rakarth is just a very talented beastmaster, not necesarily the drachau

Flash29 · Post by **Flash29** » Thu May 12, 2011 9:52 pm

I doubt beastlord rakarth would be drachau, I doubt he could actually.
The drachau is leader of a city, all nobles commit their oaths of fealty to him. Under him is the vaulkhar, the leader of a city's army. I doubt rakarth would be him as well. I think this because, if i remember correcly, Rakarth was just a lowly beastmaster with a gift. But he isn't nobility, and a city would not obey him that fast. Also Karond kar is the main city for the building of our ships, so i assume him to be a more trade related druchii. Rakarth isn't one to lock up in a city, but have him in action, or on his own gathering fame. Or as trusted general, in the witch kings own court.

Dialeth · Post by **Dialeth** » Thu May 12, 2011 10:05 pm

well i recall that is the young son of a noble but a very talented one,
what I found:
http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Beastlord_Rakarth

Saintofm · Post by **Saintofm** » Fri May 13, 2011 8:11 am

He has a dragon, not exactly a common mount in any sense of the word. The WIki says he's malekeith's personal advisor on matters of beasts and such. The fact the he, not one of the nobles, got that position says something about him. That, and considering the unofficial rules he had back in the day, he may have taken the corsair aproach and earned his way into nobility via the end of a sword.

Dialeth · Post by **Dialeth** » Fri May 13, 2011 10:00 am

well, the first Brachhus was a dark steed, but the old fluff said that it was killed in a battle against dark elves

Post by **Drainial** » Fri May 13, 2011 11:26 am

He was/is the son of a lord, not to say that he is neccesarily Drachau but he is noble.

Kajchi · Post by **Kajchi** » Fri May 13, 2011 1:22 pm

I'm in line with saintofm's thought proces. I really get the vibe that he was from some underdog house, and then climbed his way up to the top with his extraordinary skills. Secondly, seeing as he's one of the witch king's advisors, chances are large that he has a very high status in Naggaroth. Most logically would either be a Drachau or Vaulkhar.

flash29 wrote:Also Karond kar is the main city for the building of our ships, so i assume him to be a more trade related druchii. Rakarth isn't one to lock up in a city, but have him in action, or on his own gathering fame. Or as trusted general, in the witch kings own court.

Actually, I thought Clar karond was the main dockyard of Naggaroth, Karond Kar is more of a passageway. It would be more logical aswel, because Karond Kar is on an island. Thus pretty useless as a main trade point.

Flash29 · Post by **Flash29** » Fri May 13, 2011 1:31 pm

yup srry my fault, got the 2 city's confused. I still doubt he would actually lead a city, I see him more as a advisor at malekiths court, maybe the second in command for malekiths dragonriders. I just don't see someone as creal and viceous as beast lord rakart, enjoying the simple pleasures torturing defenceless slavesand whatnot.

Post by **Drainial** » Fri May 13, 2011 1:52 pm

His father got his hands on a Black Dragon, clearly the house was not very weak.

Kajchi · Post by **Kajchi** » Fri May 13, 2011 2:44 pm

Good point... Didn't it get changed into a horse though? Gonna check GW site...

EDIT: GW website says that it was a black dragon from the start. Guess the change got changed then xD

Fingol23 · Post by **Fingol23** » Fri May 13, 2011 3:29 pm

The skills needed for running a city and for controlling monsters aren't likely to be the same. Also being one of Malekith's advisors is a high ranking position meaning he doesn't really need the additonial rank of being Drachau.

Furthermore the Malus Darkblade books shows that Malekith is perfectly willing to promote virtual unknowns (e.g Malus) to high positions in his retinue based on merit.

Flash29 · Post by **Flash29** » Fri May 13, 2011 4:01 pm

Fingol23 wrote:
Furthermore the Malus Darkblade books shows that Malekith is perfectly willing to promote virtual unknowns (e.g Malus) to high positions in his retinue based on merit.

Well this ain't realy true now is it, malekith was the son of a vaulkhar, killed a vaulhar then led a army against hag greaf and gathered reknown and fame for his ability's, he also wounded the drachau of hag greaf and shocked him so much isilvar had the opportunity to rise to power. he wasn't exacly a nobody.

Fingol23 · Post by **Fingol23** » Fri May 13, 2011 6:57 pm

Malus was the bastard son of a Vaulkhar and a wanted fugitive, not someone of high standing at court.

Dialeth · Post by **Dialeth** » Tue May 24, 2011 10:36 am

Yes, but he is the only survivor son (I seem to recall another, but he is banished) and he has distinguished himself in the defense of grhond first and in the campaign of Albion and in Ulthuan later (He managed to trick the HE army)

Flash29 · Post by **Flash29** » Tue May 24, 2011 11:32 am

Dialeth wrote:Yes, but he is the only survivor son (I seem to recall another, but he is banished) and he has distinguished himself in the defense of grhond first and in the campaign of Albion and in Ulthuan later (He managed to trick the HE army)

his brother isilvar still lives in the novels I believe, the fleshy one.

Dialeth · Post by **Dialeth** » Tue May 24, 2011 2:22 pm

flash29 wrote:his brother isilvar still lives in the novels I believe, the fleshy one.

Yeah, but I remember that he was a slaanesh worshipper and ran away....

Flash29 · Post by **Flash29** » Tue May 24, 2011 3:32 pm

Dialeth wrote:
flash29 wrote:his brother isilvar still lives in the novels I believe, the fleshy one.

Yeah, but I remember that he was a slaanesh worshipper and ran away....

nyaa he wasn't found out and became vaulkhar. made a deal with his sister to trap malus in ghrond