Basing a black dragon

The exile · Post by **The exile** » Wed May 14, 2008 1:36 pm

So I'm converting a carnosaur into a black dragon and I was wondering if anyone had the measurements for the black dragons base? Wouldn't want to make it illegal accidentally.

Post by **Thanee** » Wed May 14, 2008 1:46 pm

Standard 50x50mm monster base.

Bye
Thanee

Post by **Layne** » Wed May 14, 2008 1:46 pm

HE Dragon is probably the best thing to go by, so 4"1/8 x 2" or about 105 x 50mm.

Post by **Dalamar** » Wed May 14, 2008 1:50 pm

use the base supplied with Carnosaur, it's the right size.

Post by **Layne** » Wed May 14, 2008 2:07 pm

I think if you take a Dragon to a GW tournament on a 50-square base, you'll get some stormy scowls (or beetling brows, they're all bloody dwarfs) but I suppose in all other situations, the Carnie's base will suffice. I wouldn't frown you down, anyway.

The exile · Post by **The exile** » Wed May 14, 2008 2:41 pm

Alrighty then. Thanks for the quick reply's

Azure · Post by **Azure** » Wed May 14, 2008 4:37 pm

Arnold Layne wrote:I think if you take a Dragon to a GW tournament on a 50-square base, you'll get some stormy scowls (or beetling brows, they're all bloody dwarfs) but I suppose in all other situations, the Carnie's base will suffice. I wouldn't frown you down, anyway.

Incorrect. Any dragon created not using the new dragon kit is legal on a 50x50 until GW updates the base chart. (haha... thats a funny joke)

If you use the HE dragon you must use the base it comes with, IE 100x50

-Rex

Arcturus · Post by **Arcturus** » Wed May 14, 2008 6:16 pm

@Arnold Layne
Have you ever been to a tournament? OR does saying that just sound nice?

Cheers

Post by **Layne** » Wed May 14, 2008 6:47 pm

And I'll stand corrected. Haven't and wouldn't go to a tourney, just got the impression from forum talk that GW wants Dragons to appear on the larger bases.

This is how we post, Arcturus, with relevant information (though the info might be ill-informed). There's no need to insult anyone, but I've seen you around here in the past, you've had this problem before. Haven't learned yet? Oh well, good luck to you.

Wed May 14, 2008 7:16 pm

oookey calm down people. No need to get snippy.

Rabidnid · Post by **Rabidnid** » Wed May 14, 2008 7:32 pm

Its pretending to be a black dragon so whatever the standard black dragon base is correct.

Tourneys and oppoents are going to go, "Ohh isn't that pretty" and not care about the base as long as it looks vaguely legal

Some individul players might care if they are "win at all cost" types, but until GW releases something that defines the base sizes as in 40k, the above reasoning will stand.

And yes I both play in and run tournaments.

Post by **Dalamar** » Wed May 14, 2008 8:46 pm

Monster base as defined by rulebook is:
50x50mm or larger
so you go with what you got in the box... if you didn't got anything in the box (like current Hydra model) you go with 50x50mm or larger.

Arcturus · Post by **Arcturus** » Wed May 14, 2008 9:33 pm

@Arnold Layne
Guess I overrated the function of the winking smiley. Sadly, it's you who's misbehaving this time, not me, I just asked a question, pretty much in jest(hence the wink) but you got angry. Psychology says a lot about all this, but it's boring stuff anyway. Thanks for the memo on how badly I behave, BUT, I'm still here, been ever since they started druchii.net as an EZ board in 2000. Haven't been banned yet(great place for situational comedy mod to ban me now, at the height of my boast).

Try to keep it together, and go to a tournie sometime, it's lots of fun, and it's not even half as bad as people make it out to be.

Cheers

Wed May 14, 2008 9:56 pm

Ok arcturus and Arnold, take it to PM please. No need to derail this thread.

Silverheimdall · Post by **Silverheimdall** » Wed May 14, 2008 10:24 pm

Dalamar wrote:Monster base as defined by rulebook is:
50x50mm or larger
so you go with what you got in the box... if you didn't got anything in the box (like current Hydra model) you go with 50x50mm or larger.

'Larger' is a 40k rule - it isn't supported in WHFB but it can be done if its not ridiculous (like people thinking of using the chariot base in the new HE Dragon Kit horizontally instead, to have a front of 100 and flanks of 50, just ridiculous to even think about doing it)

There are some Empire Walters (yes, Walters!) that are on their own customized base that have longer flanks and slightly longer front, I don't mind but its not technically legal either.

Post by **Dalamar** » Wed May 14, 2008 11:07 pm

Look under Unit Strength chart on page 71
I know it's unit strength chart so in theory isn't relevan... but it does list base sizes for every type of model
and monsters are actually set on
any base/no base
but of course you are meant to use the base supplied with the model.

Prince daerlythe · Post by **Prince daerlythe** » Wed May 14, 2008 11:32 pm

just go with the base provided. If you use that, there shouldn't be any compaints from anyone unless they're the stuck-up type where everything has to be new rules and assumptions that they think of or it's not legal. When you play those people, you never have a godd time anyway.