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Re: [PLOG] Cult of Khaine

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:39 am
by cultofkhaine
I'm considering a block of 40 Dreadspears for my corsair army and have a tone of the old warriors kicking about. I'm not entirely happy with the old chainmail legs and was thinking of a simple leg swap would perhaps make them look more dynamic.

What does everyone think, should I take the plunge and buy 40 new legs or stick with the standard ones?

A test model below.

Re: [PLOG] Cult of Khaine

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:17 am
by Makiwara
Just me, but the shield and those particular legs seem at odds with each other. The shield says professional soldier and the legs say rabble militia a bit... maybe if the legs had some light armour strips, maybe sea dragon skin strips, or if the shield looked a bit more battered.

But that's just my opinion and you're far more experience and expertise than I so I would say trust your judgement more than mine.

Re: [PLOG] Cult of Khaine

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:51 am
by Ming
I know I could be heretic, but I think glade guard legs could be fine, in order to be more dynamic

Re: [PLOG] Cult of Khaine

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:08 am
by cultofkhaine
What about something like this for the legs? or should I just go with the standard warrior ones and be done with it?

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Re: [PLOG] Cult of Khaine

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:03 pm
by Rowena
I like these legs and the dynamism of the model. It seems to me light-armoured, but lightfooted, which can be good. I see no problem with the shield myself.
Shadow warrior legs look great as well and would provide more armour, but it all depends on whether you don't mind having HE armour alongside dark elf chainmail. (I personally try to avoid both, so I tend to notice these things. :D )

Re: [PLOG] Cult of Khaine

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:34 pm
by T.D.
Both the Corsair legs and the Shadow Warrior legs look good options IMO.

The existing conversion to me looks like leather boots, long johns and a breastplate. Armoured, yet maneuverable!

Re: [PLOG] Cult of Khaine

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:23 am
by Jvh792
If you're going to lose the skirts and go for a more dynamic spearman, than consider going to a more gladiator style of buckler shield. Just looks weird having them sprinting forwards with tower shields.
If you have them the spear/buckler combo you could even include some nets to amp up your corsair theme, and also add to the gladiator style of dynamic posing you seem to like.

Re: [PLOG] Cult of Khaine

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:55 pm
by cultofkhaine
:o_O: ahhh!

Those shadow warrior legs look really good but its going to cost me 80 bucks for 40 of them !eek!

I could fill in the plate mail and make them have chainmail easy enough - the purist in me is now saying just stick with the standard warrior legs and save the $

!conf! to many decisions to make

Re: [PLOG] Cult of Khaine

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:57 pm
by T.D.
I've used Kabalite legs to add dynamism.

Another option ;)

Re: [PLOG] Cult of Khaine

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:54 pm
by Rowena
Jvh792 wrote:If you're going to lose the skirts and go for a more dynamic spearman, than consider going to a more gladiator style of buckler shield. Just looks weird having them sprinting forwards with tower shields.
If you have them the spear/buckler combo you could even include some nets to amp up your corsair theme, and also add to the gladiator style of dynamic posing you seem to like.

I quite like this idea. :) But really, the existing conversion is great, especially if it's a corsair army (I don't know how it's possible I missed that on my first reading) - they would need to be maneuverable if they might have to run from their ships, mail skirts would make that impossible.

ETA: I hope you don't go for the standard option, this looks so much better, at least in my opinion. :)

Re: [PLOG] Cult of Khaine

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:50 pm
by Siilar
The corsair legs look kinda weird on their own, maybe adding a loincloth at the front and back would fill that gap.

Re: [PLOG] Cult of Khaine

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:48 am
by cultofkhaine
@Siilar that's what I was thinking

Ok in a moment of weakness I have ordered 40 Shadow warrior legs with the aim of converting the plate to chainmail. I think I will get the best of both worlds here with them still looking armoured enough to look like warriors but giving them the movement I am chasing for the corsair theme.

Back to painting more corsairs for this months challenge while I wait a month for the postage - thanks all for your input it has been most helpful.

Re: [PLOG] Cult of Khaine

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:35 am
by Makiwara
Would perhaps it be feasible to give them a salvaged and scavenged theme as corsair spears? So they are stealing gear from their victims, their armour, their shields, a helm or two, etc? They've yet to reach the status as full corsairs so they're pillaging what they can when they can?

So the armour is the result of ganking some poor unfortunate Aesanar and grabbing their stuff; the lords get the jewels and baubles and the commoners get the left overs.

Re: [PLOG] Cult of Khaine

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:37 am
by With hatred ...
Cultofkhaine wrote:@Siilar that's what I was thinking

Ok in a moment of weakness


I get them all the time. As a consequence my painting pile is huge! :-)

Re: [PLOG] Cult of Khaine

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:55 am
by Booah
I can't wait to see this unit take shape. One of my first unit conversions was to make great 'hammerers' to act as greatswords for my empire. I used Knights of the White wolves cloaks, heads and arms with state troop bodies, the results are okay but I wanted to use the greatsword bodies but couldn't bring myself to double the unit cost. I kind of wish I did now and I think if you know there is a more suitable part ( that is more expensive) you should probably bite the bullet and get it.

Re: [PLOG] Cult of Khaine

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 7:47 am
by cultofkhaine
Some updates - my work for the May Invasion.

I just received the bits for my 40 Dreadspears, this month I am working on painting another 20 Corsairs and assembling the Dreadspears.

Black Ark Corsairs with Handbows

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Shades

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Lokhir Fellhart

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Re: [PLOG] Cult of Khaine

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 10:16 am
by T.D.
Very nice :)

Another impressive monthly batch!

Re: [PLOG] Cult of Khaine

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 9:43 pm
by With hatred ...
Great update, especially like that banner.

Re: [PLOG] Cult of Khaine

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 2:42 pm
by cultofkhaine
My legs arrived the other day for my 40 block of spearmen (pictured below).

I went with these legs because I think they look more dynamic and in keeping with the Corsair army I'm building.

Originally I was thinking that I would greenstuff chainmail over the high elf plate, but my greenstuff skills are very basic.

Do you think I would get away just painting the plate the same colour as my Corsair Sea Dragon cloaks and make it look like a scale mail or do I need to bit the bullet and greenstuff the chainmail on all 40?

I was thinking to do a test model, but I have exactly 40 and if I stuff it I can't go back :D

Re: [PLOG] Cult of Khaine

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 10:42 pm
by Makiwara
A lot of people who are using Shadow Warrior bits in their Wood Elf armies are just painting the scale armour up as though it were leather lamellar armour and it looks just fine, quite nice actually. I don't see why it would be any different for Corsairs, probably look really cool considering the great colours and detail you put in to your cloaks, I say go with that, would be unique and interesting.

Re: [PLOG] Cult of Khaine

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 10:39 am
by T.D.
My 3rd ed. minis say scale mail looks good on Dark Elves.

The chainmail/scales duality is a fluff which I don't follow (you could even do them as mini Hydra/Sea Dragon scales from a fluff perspective :P).

Re: [PLOG] Cult of Khaine

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 8:06 am
by cultofkhaine
I have gone with scale mail - will paint all the plates in a similar colour to the Corsair Sea Cloaks.

Have just finished assembling the block - have got one unit to paint before I get on to these and get some paint on them.

Re: [PLOG] Cult of Khaine

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 9:39 am
by Rowena
They look awesome, the lighter armour really works. I can't wait to see them painted.

Re: [PLOG] Cult of Khaine

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 11:40 am
by Makiwara
Love the effect, just had an idea looking at them though, what if the spears were modelled to look more like gaffs and hooks that would be used on board a ship? I'm thinking of the dark eldar spears they use on the ravenger kit I think? Just a thought, they're looking great!

Re: [PLOG] Cult of Khaine

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 1:28 pm
by cultofkhaine
Great idea Makiwara , the hook idea sounds brilliant, I wish I had thought of that earlier. I was initially thinking of using the warrior standard as spears (had about 30 , was slightly short in my bits box)

Im happy with how they are now - just keen to get some paint on them.