can I take the sea dragon cloak with cloak of twilight?
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can I take the sea dragon cloak with cloak of twilight?
People keep calling me on it .I do take them both.so why is it legal? Or am I wrong. .
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Re: can I take the sea dragon cloak with cloak of twilight?
It's perfectly fine and keeps you extra warm in the cold winters of Naggaroth.
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Re: can I take the sea dragon cloak with cloak of twilight?
Is it possible to wear two or more jumpers at the same time?
Yes it is.
Conclusive proof.
Or see BRB p173 'What's in a Name?'
For additional clarity: Sea Dragon Cloak is mundane armour, Cloak of Twihard is an Enchanted Item. If the Cloak was magic armour there would be a conflict ...but it is not
Yes it is.
Conclusive proof.
Or see BRB p173 'What's in a Name?'
For additional clarity: Sea Dragon Cloak is mundane armour, Cloak of Twihard is an Enchanted Item. If the Cloak was magic armour there would be a conflict ...but it is not
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Re: can I take the sea dragon cloak with cloak of twilight?
It does create modelling/conversion challenges for the OCD/literal minded like myself!
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Re: can I take the sea dragon cloak with cloak of twilight?
flatworldsedge wrote:It does create modelling/conversion challenges for the OCD/literal minded like myself!
Well it is described in the book as being all but invisible, so you have a little leeway in modelling
Re: can I take the sea dragon cloak with cloak of twilight?
Since it's supposedly made of hair, you could always model it after every Japanese horror movie/game ghost ever. =D
Re: can I take the sea dragon cloak with cloak of twilight?
You could model the cloak like a bull fighter's cape...
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Re: can I take the sea dragon cloak with cloak of twilight?
You can say they are one in the same visualy and fluff wise.
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Re: can I take the sea dragon cloak with cloak of twilight?
Actually, in reply to T.D.'s otherwise excellent post, nowhere is is stated that a sea dragon cloak is a mundane armor... If it was, then heavy armor and sea dragon cloak would not stack - but they do stack, evidence: in all our character's entries, they have an option to take both, not either/or.
The item description simply states: "This confers the scaly skin (5+) special rule".
So, in combining SDC and Cloak of Twilight: what T.D. said, except SDC isnt even mundane armor. Its just a 'nondescript' item (well its obviously a cloak )
The item description simply states: "This confers the scaly skin (5+) special rule".
So, in combining SDC and Cloak of Twilight: what T.D. said, except SDC isnt even mundane armor. Its just a 'nondescript' item (well its obviously a cloak )
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Re: can I take the sea dragon cloak with cloak of twilight?
A very astute observation Thaundril
Give the cloak of twilight and a sacrificial dagger to a supreme sorceress - voila: a bonafide cloak and dagger character
Give the cloak of twilight and a sacrificial dagger to a supreme sorceress - voila: a bonafide cloak and dagger character
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Re: can I take the sea dragon cloak with cloak of twilight?
It provides an armour saving throw. Hence armour.
It is neither a magical save nor a magic item. Hence mundane.
But splitting hairs aside it's not an Enchanted Item, which is the main thing
Not very optimal but worth playing at least once for the lulz
It is neither a magical save nor a magic item. Hence mundane.
But splitting hairs aside it's not an Enchanted Item, which is the main thing
Give the cloak of twilight and a sacrificial dagger to a supreme sorceress - voila: a bonafide cloak and dagger character
Not very optimal but worth playing at least once for the lulz
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Re: can I take the sea dragon cloak with cloak of twilight?
In my opinion, still no T.D. :p
Providing an armour saving throw does not necessarily make an item a piece of armour. For instance: put a sorcerer on a dark steed or a cold one will give her a 6+ or 5+ armour saving throw. Is the horse a piece of armour? I'd say no
But also... SDC does not provide an armour saving throw. The sea dragon cloak confers a special rule - the scaly skin special rule, to be precise. The special rule confers the armour saving throw, not the item itself... Unlike the chaos armour, which confers a 4+ armour save directly. While scaly skin gives an armor save, it is not in itself armour. A lizardman kroxigor has a scaly skin armour save, but is not wearing armour.
So I'd still argue that the sea dragon cloak is just a mundane item with no specific 'type'.
Providing an armour saving throw does not necessarily make an item a piece of armour. For instance: put a sorcerer on a dark steed or a cold one will give her a 6+ or 5+ armour saving throw. Is the horse a piece of armour? I'd say no
But also... SDC does not provide an armour saving throw. The sea dragon cloak confers a special rule - the scaly skin special rule, to be precise. The special rule confers the armour saving throw, not the item itself... Unlike the chaos armour, which confers a 4+ armour save directly. While scaly skin gives an armor save, it is not in itself armour. A lizardman kroxigor has a scaly skin armour save, but is not wearing armour.
So I'd still argue that the sea dragon cloak is just a mundane item with no specific 'type'.
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Re: can I take the sea dragon cloak with cloak of twilight?
BRB P. 179.
We'll have to agree to disagree.
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Re: can I take the sea dragon cloak with cloak of twilight?
T.D. wrote:But splitting hairs aside it's not an Enchanted Item, which is the main thing
Exactly. If there is no game effect based on the issue, why is it being argued?
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Re: can I take the sea dragon cloak with cloak of twilight?
Dalamar wrote:It's perfectly fine and keeps you extra warm in the cold winters of Naggaroth.
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