They were really good in 0.10 with a cauldron/BSB inside.

Now Cauldron is no longer a War Platform, so there are better options than the tower guard.

Try to play her with shades (Great Weapon), I have seen it in some ETC lists. You have shooting, magic (if SS is in there) and no one would be so mad to engage her. The OTS in a character would help her in challenges (for example a BSB master with OTS; Hellebron in a corner and the BSB in base conta...

You are deploying units and you have not started playing XD. What happen if your oponent tries to control both units and suddenly you deploy all your masters in one single unit? You are countering his strategy. SS with 10 guys? Bad company, better on dark steed with a Dark Riders unit. The more she ...

In no comp lists, I always take death (competitive play, not casual), it is the best lore (3 sniping spells, Ld debuff, St/T debuff, purple sun vortex), I would only change it to Dark Magic (not so amazing vortex but it has +1 to cast, more AoE spells (bladewind is a pain in the a** against Vampires...

Here's what I'm trying against O&G in a few weeks: SS LVL4: DS, RoHotek, ToProtection , Lore of Beasts Master: Peg, Full Mundane, Lance, RxB, CoTwilight Master: DS, BSB, Full Mundane, Lance, RxB, Charmed Shield, ToEndurance Master: DS, Full Mundane, Lance, RxB Master: DS, Full Mundane, Lance, R...

You don't need him, another master would be fine. But I like Dreadlord as General, he has 3 wounds, 100 points in magic items, Leadership 10 (lore of Death, panics), you can build him as a killer with dawnstone (4 attacks St7 re-rolling wards is very good, or you can build Ogre Blade/4++/OTS for mor...

That's a good point, I would like to reduce shades to 2 units of 5 and witches to 16 and add 3 RBT to the list, but I have 6 choices, so I need to sacrifice something. I think Shadow is a good lore (-T, -Mov, Pit of shades, mindrazor, double movement in a character...) in a shoothing list, and some ...

Well, I've played against Orcs (savages, trolls, fanatics and Warmachines, tipical ETC gun line list) And I won 11-9, it is hard to win against gun lines and not suffer casualties. Anyway, I don't like Lore of Beast at all, I think Dark Magic, shadows, metal or even life could be better. And I final...

I was looking something below 100p if I need to sacrifice something, harpies are good because they fly and are cheap. I didn't want to lose my ring of Hotek but everything in my list is necessary. I will play both, and then I will decide.

Thanks for your advice, I will post my results

Thanks for your answer! First, I miss with magical item, I meant Black amulet, I just wrote dragon egg Still prefer 1º build. In magic, I'm thinking abut Beasts, it has some nice buff for characters and a canon ball. I changed my ring of hotek and musicians in shades for 5 Harpies. I don't have so m...

I've played some games and I've made some changes. I like RBT but I think shades are going to do better, I also drop the darkshards, I prefer raiders, and I don't show the place of my L4 until she is deployed. I have another pegasus too. Champions negate challenges when I charge with pegasus or Drag...

If you have a CC magic weapon, you loose all your other CC weapons. So you can't use your lance. You can equip an Ogre Blade (+2 St always) Not all, everyone is assumed to have at least a hand weapon. Fluff wise, battlefields are full of chattle and gear from slain fighters, hand weapons can be fou...

Those witches are going to kill your mage. They only respect Khaine followers. You can take list 3, drop witches to 28, save points of ogre blade, (change BSB to the CoT master) one master less and make a new unit (white lions/exec). You can also change level 2 to a level 1 if points are required. I...

It is a Chariot, it can join units but doesn't have any character special rule (look out sir!, challenges...)

Note: As long as the Hag is alive, she IS a character, mounted on a chariot. (More or less the same as a character mounted on a monster)

If you have a CC magic weapon, you loose all your other CC weapons. So you can't use your lance. You can equip an Ogre Blade (+2 St always)

Destroying the unit means that the COB has left it. Q: At what point after a unit has been wiped out do any characters remaining count as having left the unit? (p101) A: As soon as the last model from the unit has been removed, any remaining characters will count as a new unit. Note that this will ...

You really did a good job in this report, very clear and well explained. And it's said by a non-English guy Your friend did some strange movements... But his first and main problem was his deployment, I recently played against a big unit of BK like yours, my last deploy was warmachines right in fron...

Tzeench have a lot of Magic proyectiles (magic and shooting), so small units gonna suffer. If you want to pay shields to xbowelves join them and make a 20 model unit, otherwise you should save the points. L4 could go in this unit. You can also make a unit of 9 riders and join the L4 on a dark steed....

I'd never charge with a master if it is unhurt. Soulblight with warlocks, shoot him with RBT and then charge (should cast another soulblight just in case) I'd charge with a peg Dreadlord, ws7 vs 3 (3+ hits vs 5+) more attacks, more survability. Stegadon is Stubb by the way, so flank charge doen't ma...

Yeah, cats, those damn cute controlling hairballs . Someone should give them a lesson, not me, of course, I wouldn't mess with him.

In no comp tournaments, the best list is the Deathstar with Warlocks. Take a look at this list: General Dreadlord (perfect for challenges) (282p) (Try not to be in base contact with your BsB or your SS) - Dark Steed - 1+ AS - Xbow - Giant blade - Dawnstone - OTS Supreme Sorceress (315p) - Dark steed...

Thanks for the advice! Sorry, the Lore is Dark Magic, I had life in the other list and I didn't change it. Shadow is very good too, I chose DM due to the plus 5, both lores are fine. I agree Darkshards are not best options for basics, but I can get into trouble with regeneration units. I split Warlo...

toots wrote:Your username is pretty interesting - did you just bash the keyboard and go with what it generated?!

Welcome!

I asked my cat for a nickname, he wrote that. I'm ok with it.

Actually it should look like fantasy, it's weird I know.

Thanks all of you!

Hi everybody! Sorry for my English Mi first list in Druchii.net, please help me make a good ETC list and use it well. I want to include a Dragon in my list and expect to be competitive: 2400 ETC Dark Elves: NEW LIST IN A POST BELOW General, Dreadlord (557p) - Dragon - Full 1+ Armour save. - ...

Hi! I'm David. I'm Spanish btw, so sorry for my English. Hope you won't mind about it I've been playing DE for many years, but I've never participate in non-Spanish forums. I also play Orcs&Gobbs but DE is my main army (6k-7k points more or less). I'm getting interested in ETC rules, since I pla...