Cyberactivity wrote:Yeah, the Black Amulet is overpriced.

The only way it would be worth it would be to by pass all saves.

Otherwise the PoK is far superior 90% of the time.

Last game against empire lv4 with it took a cannon ball to the face and survived! I wouldn't of saved it with the BA.

I agree!

Your unit of BG's looks pretty small - I always prefer BG units of 14+ models; I guess you run yours 5*2, whereas most people I know run them 7*2 ...

Otherwise your force looks pretty solid! I've never fancied magic-heavy DE, but that might just be me!

I've been running a similar list with a decent win ratio ... check it out here:

http://www.druchii.net/viewtopic.php?t=59195

Just a few pointers - as some have already said: You are character-heavy, but that'll be all up to you to decide.

You might wanna consider shields for your RxB. I guess the 12 man-unit is for your dagger-sorceress?! If so you'll probably reconsider the size?! 12 seems a bit small for my taste ...

Obviously I have not seen the book, but one extremely pertinent question: does ths Terradon special character have a special rule allowing him to join a unit in the first place? I'm guessing maybe he does. The whole reason flying models have been banned from joining flying units in the past has bee...

Sweet ... beautiful pieces, albeit a bit bright for my liking!

Wasn't Slortor the Primus Motor on this one?

Playing for the win does not, as quite a few people have replied, exclude having fun - or allowing your opponent to have fun! I DO play for winning - I'm not trying to save teddybears, but I'm trying to do my best in a WARgame. That being said, I still try to have fun, just as I suppose my opponent ...

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Ohh .. thx! The sorceress is also pretty good!

I really haven't got that many suggestions, but I think you should keep the overall dynamics in mind! It is always difficult to make two HUGE models interact properly. I think you've made good progress, but you seem to lack that last great touch ... for inspiration, please look at Jakob Nielsens GD ...

Neves wrote:And if you wouldn't want to convert, there are always the Gamezone harpies.

http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/i ... t=GZ_06-55

I bought them myself and am very satisfied with the high detail!

They are actually pretty neat - it's a shame there are only two different sculpts!

I have also thought of the daemonettes (and have seen quite a few conversions made from them), but just wasn't sure if they were the best way to go about the harpies, but it seems to be so ... hmm ... Do people in generel prefer feathery or leathery wings? I myself would say leathery!

For the record, Shields I checked with GW staff Umm... there is a general rule around here - if someone asks a GW employee for rules clarifications and then post whatever they said, the argument is automatically lost for that side GW staff usually are no more capable at solving rules problems than ...

druchii77 wrote:My current lists include only a single unit of dark riders while I have two units of 10 crossbows and two units of harpies.

This is in fact quite close to my own build - which is: 3*10 RxB and 2*5 Harpies ...

I'm really in the dark here - I'm definitely not a fan of the current harpy range, but I really haven't seen many conversions out there that had me convinced either, so what to do? Has anybody seen conversions that were recommendable??

I worked out a 2250 list the other night, and when I took a closer look this morning I realised that I had included NO DR Seeing this thread makes me want to try without, but I'm a little nervous that I'm going to miss them a lot. The choice in this case seems to be 1 of three: 2x5 DR w/RXB 5 DR w/...

@asikari, Ehakir, et.al. Well first off - I'm a HUGE fan of Dark Riders! I think the can be invaluable, but I also think that they more often than not are limiting the tactical capabilities of a lot of players (in this regard your're absolutely right Skilgannon) ... I just tried out the No-DR tactic...

Still a good list - since you are sticking to WYSIWYG and models available to you, the result is odd numbers in units, but we've been over that already.

Interesting concept. You have said you have replaced the Dark Riders with RXBs but what about shades and harpies these would be the more natural replacements are you running many of these already or are you pretty light on these as well. I can see RXBs particualry with shields doing well at some of...

Lately I've been wondering, especially in the light of Charlie's GT winning army, if we need the infamous Dark Riders at all ... I've been using armies with no DR's at all (replacing them with RxB cores instead) and it seems to work nicely. Even if RxB's are static and vulnerable to certain opponent...

Even if Calisson is right about it being hard to play a "Geronimo style" army with DE, it's not impossible though! And you'll actually find that fast hitting DE armies are probably the best out there - even better than HE, IMO. Browse through the army lists available on d-net and see the g...

Welcome to d-net... remember that a LOT of Q's can be answered through the search function: for help with VC's have a look at this current thread:

http://www.druchii.net/viewtopic.php?t=58548

I think the first thing you have to consider is - what will the amount of magic resistence (not MR) be in terms of DD, scrolls, enemy wizards, etc. - then you decide the powerlevel of your own army! having 8 lvls of magic might be over the top if your opposition brings none... You don't necessarily ...

I'd say the 2nd list due to the inclusion of a caddy.

The first list simply is too vulnerable to enemy magic - the ring alone is not much of a magic defence!.

Other than that ... not much to say! It is kind of smallish