Round 2 After some lunch I had the joy of chatting to one Joe Sturge former GT winner and one of the inspirations behind the list. We had a good chance to discuss the differences in the list he took to mine (mainly no hydra but I had a rending stars assassin). He ended by telling me to let him know ...

in which case I'll point out that you missed one "i had comfortably one this one" Damn it! Cheers Katon, I have really liked the chariots but having the option of two certainly makes them more flexible. The assassin was great for me. Having the option of shooting with a unit rather than j...

Don't apologise i'm english I have no excuse.

I guess suggesting more warriors is out of the question

I'm a little torn I like the extra charge range of the Cold Ones but the ASF Black Guard are nasty especially if you put Killing Blow on from the cauldron they will be a big deterent.

UK GT – More Spear Elves than you can shake a big stick at Some of you may have been following my report on the build up to the UK GT heat one if not these can be found here: http://www.druchii.net/viewtopic.php?t=62391 For those of you who have followed my previous reports sorry these will be shor...

To be honest terrain is a whole topic in itself and there isn't much to say that is specific to using warriors. Also there are much better players at using terrain than I so I don't think I would do a very good job compared to what someonelse could do. Maybe one day I will focus on how I use terrain...

Hi Danceman, I didn’t say that ASF was better as an army wide rule I only commented on the spears example. I said ASF had a bigger impact on the way the game was played, that is different to which ability is harder as an army wide rule. I would strongly disagree that ASF punished good offensive play...

If they both have shields it is only 2 points and ASF doesn't have a down side. The biggest problem with ASF is it changes the way the game is played manouvering used to be mainly about getting the charge now getting in the flank becomes a bigger issue. Also shooting becomes much heavier as it works...

I don't know the guy who came 10th but the guy who came 2nd is the best High Elf player in the country and has plenty of experience using a Star Dragon so switching to a Dark Elf Dragon list isn't exactly a tactical stretch. Dark Elves are more powerful than High Elves that Marcus' results improved ...

Hi Calisson, Feel free to add something on about how to equip spears for the D.R.A.I.C.H. (what you have pulled up would work as far as i'm concerned) also a conversation about magic banners also seems to interest people. However, i'm not really interested on doing any work on how to equip units. My...

@Weenth Master Rune of Challenge, Death Magic Spells, The old Slaanesh Magic. However, you are right 7th edition has started reducing these things. I suppose I am still looking whistfully at the past. The point about movement is still pretty valid though IMO. I didn't read your post before posting w...

Siren Song isn't 50 points it is 25 points. It is pretty unbalanced that a unit that should be immune to those kind of effects (see all similar effects from any other book) suddenly isn't to one from the daemon book. Especially as it is a very powerful effect only created to let movement 3 dwarves g...

@ Great Escape
See my response to Bounce. It is a good point but I will let people draw their own conclusions as to which banners would be good for the scenarios in the article and see what they come up with.

Why didn't you take more lvl 2s? I ran out of points is the short glib answer. The long answer is magic was strong enough, magic, shooting, combat res, high strength combat attacks needed everything I have in that list IMO. I considered doing for the assassin at first when I didn't have man bane on...

Yeah in terms of presentation I agree and will try to tidy it up for you guys. I will also do a read through. I took some notes so I will also try to do some battle reports but they won't be as detailed as the ones I usuallly write. @ E Bloodletter: In the article I discuss using the spears to defle...

Congrats mates. Any ideas on what the top DE lists were? I know of three of them: 2nd Marcus Pitt Dragon, BSB on Peg, Scroll Caddie, Throwing Stars Assassin, 4 units of shades, 1 RXB, 1 unit of Harpies, Hydra, 2 Dark Riders 5th Singe Frost 2 Hydra, Black Guard with BSB, 3 units of RXB, 2 Cauldren, ...

Cheers Bounce, In terms of unit set up I purposely stayed away from talking about how to set them up but rather focused on how to use them in the battlefield. You will see pearl of infinite darkness is in both armies. However, I wouldn't suggest this for a main combat unit as you lose the option to ...

D.R.A.I.C.H. - Dark Elf Spears Tactica Let me start by saying why I want to write this article. I love infantry, in particular ranked infantry. I think it looks great on the battlefield; I enjoy painting infantry and I think they are a really strong tactical option which I have had a lot of success...

My Bolt Throwers did what they usually don't die (hiding behind lots of spears help) and kill stuff. Personally I didn't face many Large targets but there were plenty all around. I wouldn't drop them if I was you but I don't know what else is in your list. Two out of three of the best placed Dark El...

I think Joe had to leave after day one I didn't see him day two and he didin't display his army for best army despite being nominated. He got no points on day 2 and only one win on day one.

Does anybody know the list of the winning Deamon-player? And what on earth is the LD-bomb Thirster list?? I believe it is something like this for both armies: Blood thirster Slannesh herald on Steed Siren Song Jugger BSB -2 LD banner Masque 10 Daemonettes 10 Horrors Standard 10 Horrors Standard 6 F...

Yes although I think two Vampire Lists managed 5 wins so usually that would be enough for top ten. Also Vampires are suffering from the new books, against 6th Ed books they are nasty but not so much against the books from High Elves onwards. Also I'm not aware of too many top players taking Vampires.

Just thought I would add this; Dark Elves managed 5 of the top ten places at the GT heat 1 with Daemons taking the other 5 places. Dark Elves finished: 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 9th and 10th. I came 9th with my Warrior heavy force more details can be found in the Battle Reports section. Congradulations Marucs ...

No time for a proper report but I will give a quick update on a game. Played John's Lizards 2 Steg Slaan army in breakthrough scenario. Without many scoring units it was a bit too hard for John to win on that mission but he could still win on his secret mission. I picked the wrong secret mission and...

The Bolt Throwers shouldn't be close enough together to charge with skirmishers in subsequent turns anyway. Chaos usually have plenty of quick cheap units to send after bolt throwers so sending two different units shouldn't be much of an issue and the enemy isn't exactly using much of their army (in...