Witch Elves: Ever? Never?

How to beat those cowardly High Elves?

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Rkhatzar
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when you face VC you should just assault straight in to Vampire, and forget the rest. After he is dead it's over. just make 3 units in "spear" formation cover it by harpies, and it's over. Don't deploy in line, don't get any distortion, just price throu his line in to vampire. And with 7 WE plus other upgrades it's fairly easy to annihilate whole unit in one turn and than charge Vampire's unit.

70 pts, x 3 it's 210 pts, no banners maybe Assassins or something. The only drawback is Special slots...

Large unit of WE, can be decent screen - no fear, panic, terror.
With ASF let them charge, and 20 ore more long line, charging will multicharge. Put there Assassins, Death Hags, and have another one or two units behind it so you can retreat from it. Bost it with COB. Man, it's cheesy:)

If you don't want build around it... why do you play DE? Every unit, is so specialised, that you have to build your army around most expensive one, or around general tendency.

but you can use WE instead of RXB, or as support for COC....

I was heavy thinking how i can use my 2x20 WE, and after a while I've come to many ideas.
Also medium/big units with 2 Manticores, WH, or Dragon and Harpies is nice idea. They don't panic, they die, march, and kill or die tryng. And when you face Death Magic and high S no armor save hits.... Just lough and spill the blood.
PS: look on ornery Handguns S4 AP Only COK/C will get any Save against it, so deas it mathers if we have any AS? Ye, Elves have many S3 shoots, but they don't have decent AS themselves. Only HE ASF is a pain but there are other choices to tak. And woha - ASF WE can take deathstars like a banana if they're sufficiently big.
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Re: Witch Elves: Ever? Never?

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fuzzydeath wrote:Unfortunately for me, Witch Elves are what originally drew me to the Dark Elves. Of late I've completely abandoned using them at all, which seems to be in accordance with the opinions of players on this forum and others.

^This, very much. I haven't used mine at all. They nerfed their WS, which was pretty much the nail in their coffin. For their points cost, I'd rather use Corsairs which I never field either. Perhaps in a Hellebron list, for fun but I won't be using WE any time soon.
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Fr0 wrote:I haven't used mine at all. They nerfed their WS, which was pretty much the nail in their coffin.


I like the lower WS, with Hatred, Poison and Str 3 I get more wounds that way.
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Like everything its situational – but 2 unit of 5 WE w/ command. One unit with AP and the other with the war banner. The hag depending on who I’m fighting will have either RoK, WB or Manbane at 125pt will eat most units with the exception of the hardest of hard. Minimum 12 attacks poison, the Hag depending on how she is tooled up can hack through a line of troops. I will sometimes put two of these units in the middle of my army and run them as fast as I can and hit the first unit they can find. This is the best 125pts in the game IMO. If I’m really in a bad mood I’ll add a assassin but it’s rare that I do that since that is what people expect when they see these gals coming. I just love this little balls of DE love…

fuzzydeath wrote:Unfortunately for me, Witch Elves are what originally drew me to the Dark Elves. Of late I've completely abandoned using them at all, which seems to be in accordance with the opinions of players on this forum and others.

My question is are they just so badly overshadowed by other choices in the codex that they're hopeless? Or if you take Hellbane, and have Witch Elves begin counting as core, are they THEN worthwhile as they won't be competing for precious specal slots?
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theyre best naked or big - becouse 5 modelsm strong unit with banner is additional 100Pts for opponent, and it's very easy to hunt it down, if youre not babysiting it, and it's only about 15% or less of your army, so - to risky. 7 strong unit, even 5 trong is enought to take 20 models strong block of man/skaven/goblins/skelletons and others.
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Rkhatzar wrote:they're best naked


You got that right! :P

(come on, you were all thinking the same thing!)
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