Lokhir Fellhart - Corsairs or Spears?

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Lokhir Fellhart - Corsairs or Spears?

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So I'm really torn: Do I throw Lokhir in with my corsairs so I can use their special roll to catch enemy units and Lokhir's to get double points, or throw them in a big block of spears so he doesn't get magicked, shot to death?

Any thoughts? or other creative places to *ahem* stick Ol' Squiddy?

Thanks!

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Lokhir will make a 13 man block of Black Guard into a shooting magnet.
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He is less likely to get shot to death with the corsairs because of their SDC's. And there is little you can do to stop magic without a few sorceresses in your army to dispell. I say put him in corsairs, it was what he was designed for. If your opponent is worried about him they will shoot no matter what unit you put him in.
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Thanks, folks. I guess my thoughts run close to Kefka's. I don't think he's the best thing since sliced bread, but he's pretty damn close if I can get a good charge in.

Here's a question: If he charges into the flank, ranks of the enemy still work normally, right? I.E., I count them from the front of the unit? So lets say I'm against a 5x4 block and hit the front with 4 witchelves because the rest got shot up. If I hit the side with Lokhir and the corsairs, he gets a +4 bonus to his attack skill. I think...
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Post by Handsome jack »

the way it reads it looks like he gets an extra attack per enemy rank, not rank bonus. Your position shouldn't change the way his ranks are calculated
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Post by Dalamar »

If you hit 1x20 conga-line Lokhir gets +20 attacks.
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Post by Blaznak »

Dalamar wrote:If you hit 1x20 conga-line Lokhir gets +20 attacks.


Seriously? It doesn't have to be something that is a full rank? Sheesh! I have GOT to go re-read those rules. That is insane! Great tip, Dalamar!

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Post by Dalamar »

Nope, his bonus isn't based on the enemy unit rank bonus, but ranks. (so he *always* gets at least +1... first rank is a rank too)
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Post by Sulla »

Conversely, hitting in the flanks doesn't get extra attacks on a single ranked opponent... Files don't become ranks.

I say put him in the ASF BG. If he doesn't get to strike first, he's a dead man vs the kind of units my opponents field.
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sulla wrote:Conversely, hitting in the flanks doesn't get extra attacks on a single ranked opponent... Files don't become ranks.



But he'd still get a +1 in your example, right? Because a unit always has at least one rank? Sorry, just trying to wrap my feeble head around this!

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Post by Dalamar »

Yep, only single models don't have ranks.
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Haven't got my book on me right now. Is that right Dal? i've been playing that they still gave the +1...
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Post by Calisson »

A single model DOES have 1 rank. Incomplete, yes, but that's still 1.
So Lokhir has a pair of weapon which don't allow one additional attack as would a pair of mundane weapons, but do allow one more attack per rank which is a minimum of +1.

The funny story is when he lone-charges 10 skirmishers:
they line up against him and get 3+3+3+1=4 ranks!
Chances are that they would have fled because of the terror, though.
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