D.net tournament - gathering ideas
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:25 pm
Rowena had an insteresting idea I think might be worth exploring :
A tournament where the members of this site would battle against each other! There are many good generals here but only one can be the D.net Champion, after all. So how do I imagine this?
1. technical
As we are from various places all over the world, the battles would have to be held on Universal Battles (well, if some generals manage a live game, why not but it seems improbable).
Because planning such a game would take some time we would need a long enough time limit in which the battle would have to happen. For example, one month for each round of the tourney.
I think five rounds could be nice, using the Swiss system as in normal events.
2. the armies
One question is if we should restrict the participants to some races.
The first possibility is that only Dark Elf armies will be played. Most members of this site play them (surprise! ) so they know the army and would be able to field something they like; on the other hand, the armies might look quite different from the usual tournament builds because what is strong against elves is not neccessarily strong in an all-comers list and reversely. This might and might not be a good thing. In addition, so many mirror matches might be somewhat boring to some.
Another way would be to say that everyone can play any army except Dark Elves. This would probably bring more interesting battles but on the other hand it would limit the poor players that only play DE and have no experience with anything else. Another effect would be that we would see normal tournament builds (if such thing exists at all) that have to be prepared for every threat (except DE but this should hopefully not play an extremely important role). This would teach us the most about other armies but the least about DE in particular.
Or we could just combine the approaches and allow everything. I would then expect a large number of DE armies but a significant portion of other races as well. There would be many battles featuring DE, teaching us a lot about our army; still, the number of mirror matches might be quite high. It is probable that the lists would be tweaked somewhat to reflect the meta of many elves but not as strongly as with the first option. Middle ground in all aspects it seems.
3. points limit, comp, scenarios and such things
This is of course dependant on the answers in the previous section.
There will probably be a heated debate about this. One reasonable option is to simply play uncomped Warhammer. I do not think using any army restrictions would work as the systems evolve to reflect their meta which would probably be different from ours; besides, the comp in February would probably different from the comp in June, whatever system would be used.
On the other hand, should we allow all armies our meta would probably be "normal" enough so that the restrictions would make sense (more precisely, almost as much sense as they normally do, even if that might mean very little for some generals).
Another sensible option would be to go for the middle ground and use no army restrictions but ETC rules changes and FAQ, for example. Or something like: "ETC FAQ, but only where it does not contradict the basic rules".
I do not think we are willing to do our own comp pack. If someone volunteers to propose it, though, it might be an option as well.
There might be a possibility I am overlooking of course.
4. End times?
We can allow everything from it, parts of it (for example new units but not new characters, all new models but not new magic or any combination actually). Or we can restrict it all.
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So, ideas? Opinions? Is there interest in such a thing actually?
A tournament where the members of this site would battle against each other! There are many good generals here but only one can be the D.net Champion, after all. So how do I imagine this?
1. technical
As we are from various places all over the world, the battles would have to be held on Universal Battles (well, if some generals manage a live game, why not but it seems improbable).
Because planning such a game would take some time we would need a long enough time limit in which the battle would have to happen. For example, one month for each round of the tourney.
I think five rounds could be nice, using the Swiss system as in normal events.
2. the armies
One question is if we should restrict the participants to some races.
The first possibility is that only Dark Elf armies will be played. Most members of this site play them (surprise! ) so they know the army and would be able to field something they like; on the other hand, the armies might look quite different from the usual tournament builds because what is strong against elves is not neccessarily strong in an all-comers list and reversely. This might and might not be a good thing. In addition, so many mirror matches might be somewhat boring to some.
Another way would be to say that everyone can play any army except Dark Elves. This would probably bring more interesting battles but on the other hand it would limit the poor players that only play DE and have no experience with anything else. Another effect would be that we would see normal tournament builds (if such thing exists at all) that have to be prepared for every threat (except DE but this should hopefully not play an extremely important role). This would teach us the most about other armies but the least about DE in particular.
Or we could just combine the approaches and allow everything. I would then expect a large number of DE armies but a significant portion of other races as well. There would be many battles featuring DE, teaching us a lot about our army; still, the number of mirror matches might be quite high. It is probable that the lists would be tweaked somewhat to reflect the meta of many elves but not as strongly as with the first option. Middle ground in all aspects it seems.
3. points limit, comp, scenarios and such things
This is of course dependant on the answers in the previous section.
There will probably be a heated debate about this. One reasonable option is to simply play uncomped Warhammer. I do not think using any army restrictions would work as the systems evolve to reflect their meta which would probably be different from ours; besides, the comp in February would probably different from the comp in June, whatever system would be used.
On the other hand, should we allow all armies our meta would probably be "normal" enough so that the restrictions would make sense (more precisely, almost as much sense as they normally do, even if that might mean very little for some generals).
Another sensible option would be to go for the middle ground and use no army restrictions but ETC rules changes and FAQ, for example. Or something like: "ETC FAQ, but only where it does not contradict the basic rules".
I do not think we are willing to do our own comp pack. If someone volunteers to propose it, though, it might be an option as well.
There might be a possibility I am overlooking of course.
4. End times?
We can allow everything from it, parts of it (for example new units but not new characters, all new models but not new magic or any combination actually). Or we can restrict it all.
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So, ideas? Opinions? Is there interest in such a thing actually?