Still reeling from my victory against empire just a few days ago i got challanged by another friend of mine...
Next Week...
My opponent might not be well versed in orcs&goblins, but he has been playing for years with HE; Demons; 40k
It is ofcourse up to me to teach this greenskin to fear the power of the Dark Elves.
But i'm afraid i will need some help in getting a good list, since i;m not that familiar with those greenskins.
I was thinking of the following list
Lords Dread Lord Crimson Death ; Armour of Darkness; Pendant of Khaeleth 205 Supreme Sorceress Sacrifical Dagger 285
Heroes Death Hag – Cauldron of Blood & BSB 225
Core 24 Dark Elf Warriors 183 20 Dark Elf Repeater Crossbowmen 220 20 Black Ark Corsairs Sea Serpent Banner 250
Special 5 Cold One Knights Standard of Discipline 190 20 Black Guard Banner of Murder 320 20 Witch Elves Witch Brew 250 5 Shades 90 5 Shades 90
You definitely need harpies - fanatics can be a pain in the backside otherwise.
Drop the shades - His units will be mostly T4 and/or super duper cheap per model and your crossbow bolts will either just ping off or do so little points worth of damage that they don't add much.
I'd go for more combat punch - make at least one of your fighting units into a horde. Witch elves are very nice versus O&G because they strike first, get a huge number of attacks and have poison, which is very handy indeed for getting through that high toughness.
Similarly, I'd go for less shooting. Your crossbowmen will struggle to make much of an impact, for the same reason as the shades.
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90% of ong lists will have big units of black orcs and savage orc big uns, so you will have expensive units to shoot at. usually trolls too so i'd bring a flaming banner on the witches.
i'm not sure what the point of the knights is, i'd drop them to for 2 units of harpies for redirecting the massive units hes gonna have and to draw out fanatics, and to add a few models to the corsairs/witches.
thanks for the advice.... I will see about getting some Harpies this weekend.
Your advice on the shades is well taken...they are a lot more expensive then harpies.
Flaming Banner for the Witch elves is a good choice as well..not sure if i will encounter trolls but if i do i at least have a unit to deal with them.
@Rabidnid.
I was still thinking about that myself..... Part of me wants to use Dark Magic, because some of the spells are very usefull...then again Shadow has some powerfull spells as well...
Would it be wise to drop my Dread Lord and take an extra lvl 2 mage?
I'm not sure myself.... What is more usefull against orcs melee...or spells?
and don't forget spells like SoulStealer....
you just need to roll a six to wound...but if you can roll between 20 and 40 dies...there a bound to be some sixes in there.
Cold73 wrote:and don't forget spells like SoulStealer.... you just need to roll a six to wound...but if you can roll between 20 and 40 dies...there a bound to be some sixes in there.
Yep, and versus goblins its better than that. Black horror is the spell you want though as the Orks are rarely better than strength 3.
A lvl 4 with dark and a lvl 2 with ToF and shadow could be funny as well, but I save the points and just get a lvl 1 with LT and metal. The only things that worry have lots of armour and are more than S4, so metal is the obvious counter.
A lvl 4 with dark and a lvl 2 with ToF and shadow could be funny as well, but I save the points and just get a lvl 1 with LT and metal. The only things that worry have lots of armour and are more than S4, so metal is the obvious counter.
Metal against Orcs....i must admit i;m not that famiar with their army list, but i thought that Orcs didnt really have any units with a low armour save?
A lvl 4 with dark and a lvl 2 with ToF and shadow could be funny as well, but I save the points and just get a lvl 1 with LT and metal. The only things that worry have lots of armour and are more than S4, so metal is the obvious counter.
Metal against Orcs....i must admit i;m not that famiar with their army list, but i thought that Orcs didnt really have any units with a low armour save?
As a general thing rather than Orks specifically. I had a major failure with metal yesterday so I will be using dark or maybe shadow on the lvl 1/2 from now on.
