Island of blood, Could the HE become DE easily?

[Tomj8937]

Basicly its in the title, Could I turn the High elves from island of blood into dark elves easily enough. I haven't got the army book so are the dark elves as elite as high elves or close enough to it to work as here are about 34 HE models and I dont want to convert them and find out iv only got like 250 points. lease tell me this cause Im new and I don't like to make mistakes (im poor).

[Nellamik]

I woundn't go through all that trouble. If you buy the IoB game set and don't want HE I would trade them for what you want. Or sell them on e-bay and buy what you want. That goes for the rats your gonna get too.

[Meteor]

or you could spend that 150 on the DE box set on units that you WILL be using in your games and don't need to go through the trouble of converting HE models to DE.

I have converted HE spears into DE spears. DE sprues have enough left over spears and heads for you to stick onto HE models. I simply mix and match them up, like putting DE chest onto HE legs, DE head onto DE chest etc. I'd then stick them in the middle of my units so it's not as obvious to the naked eye. I haven't and don't dare to try converting its other models. You probably could make DRs from their Reavers but that's about all. Or if you're good with greenstuff then you could modify their greatswords to resemble executioners, but too much effort that's not worth spending.

[Eolelfslayer]

It can be done for sure, but it sounds like a dounting task.
The reavers, especially, are very far from dark riders (the only thing i suppose you can turn them into).

[Markusswe]

I considered earlier to make an elf army I could use as two different ones. Ie. using a color scheme that works for both armies. Like a dark/blue/white(highlights) DE/HE army. While this is possible for things like pheonix guards that can be used as black guards it's harder when there's more difference (like rpx/bow, horses/cold ones).

HE/WE works a lot better for this. Perhaps with green/turquoise mostly. Archers, eagles and a dragon can be the same, eternal guards can be used as spearelves or the other way around, wardancers as swordmasters (ie paint dancers bracers in metal). Most difficult is cavalry which for HE is barded but not for WE (some sort of light cavalry could be used as wild riders/reavers).

Treemen, heavy cavalry, bolters, dryads are those you can't use as something else in the other army.

Well, that's just a few ideas for you guys!

[Tomj8937]

Im no stranger to daunting tasks I converted the whole assault on black reach set marines into sace wolves with 1 sw pack and some green stuff it cant my too hard. I mean just say there newly turned give em some repeater crossbows and long hair and convert the head crests (I am NOT having dark elves with fish's on them). Also 150? Its only 60 quid or are you aus.

[Playa23]

Firstly, Its probably not worth doing that entire conversion. Secondly, is it just me or is the Island of blood set a little random. Battle for Skull Pass seemed to make more sense... cheers

[Aeth]

To be honest I think you'd be better off buying the DE battalion box than IoB.

[Meteor]

yea aus is 150, but the equivalent between the DE battalion and IoB is still the same, which was the point i was making. sorry, didn't think before i placed a price down

[Myrkrdreki]

You get allot more fun stuff in IoB Swordmasters-> executioners. Reavers-> DR. Theese are atm metal for us, and the ones that comes in the batalion is plastic. And you get some skaven, thats allways fun! I'm considering buying IoB for that wery same reason; using them as DE.

[Tomj8937]

Meteor That's fine we all make mistakes sometimes. I dunno if ill still do it on the grounds that my mate and I decided on a deal ages ago We go halfsies on IOB he has one army I have the other and the rulebook I wanted to start a dark elf army so my mate sujjested ''hey why dont you have some of my dark elves (enouth to match the size of the other ones in the box) And ill keep both armies?'' So I now dont know what the hell im doing.

[Dannyisevil]

Use the high elf models as scenery.
Like put some dead reavers between the trees.

[Red...]

Use the high elf models as scenery.

You could buy some of the menoth racks from the privateer press range and pin the high elf bodies to them

[Tomj8937]

good ideas guys
Quick question, I don't have the book at the moment but have struck a deal with a friend so i get the book with the army. Slaves Is there some sort of like slave squad because that fights on the battlefield (Like the skavenslaves have or the dark eldar have grotesques or the orc and the ogre kindom slave giant) if so All i need to do is scar the sword masters, replace there swords for bits of wood or a stick or justsomthing they looked klike they picked off the floor, add chain around there legs and volla i got a cheap and cheerful slavery unit. So is it allowed?
Also Daemonettes, online I keep looking at tactics (librarium online is my source at the moment) and it says a cult of slannesh dark elf army can include daemonettes is this true or does it mean just an allied force?

[Meteor]

in the army book there is no such thing available, it's probably something really really old back in some edition of the DE army book. You could turn the HE models into slaves indeed, I know a skaven guy who uses night goblins as his slaves.

I also just had a look at the IoB sprues, and it's not going to fun at all, converting HE models into DE ones....

Though the swordmaster do look like executioners, being plastic means they can easily be modified futher

[Thanee]

Slaves Is there some sort of like slave squad because that fights on the battlefield (Like the skavenslaves have or the dark eldar have grotesques or the orc and the ogre kindom slave giant) if so All i need to do is scar the sword masters, replace there swords for bits of wood or a stick or justsomthing they looked klike they picked off the floor, add chain around there legs and volla i got a cheap and cheerful slavery unit. So is it allowed?

Unfortunately, we do not have any slave regiments.

Also Daemonettes, online I keep looking at tactics (librarium online is my source at the moment) and it says a cult of slannesh dark elf army can include daemonettes is this true or does it mean just an allied force?

Not anymore. In 6th edition, there was an alternate DE army list, which you could use to play the Cult of Pleasure. That ist probably what you read/heard about.

Bye
Thanee

[Tomj8937]

Damn. Ah well ok then.

[Iyagd]

Well, to be honest and after small brainstorm I believe it is more Painting & Modelling topic. I think You'll get more feedback there. So I'm moving it to P&M.

[Meteor]

Anything directly DE related is definitely better than converting HE in to DE. Especially the IoB HE, which I kind of regret ordering now zzzz... Even if I successfully modify the griffon into a manticore, i still could had gotten an actual model for much cheaper... siiiigh...damn gw staff talking me into it lol.

[Rogue-gladiator]

Anything directly DE related is definitely better than converting HE in to DE. Especially the IoB HE, which I kind of regret ordering now zzzz... Even if I successfully modify the griffon into a manticore, i still could had gotten an actual model for much cheaper... siiiigh...damn gw staff talking me into it lol.

It would take some time, but I think the griffin to manticore conversion may not be that hard, depending on the size of it. Take a lion head from the high elf range, lop off the griffin head, and do a head swap (assuming the size looks reasonable). Sculpt some mane to cover up some of the feathers, and shave off the rest. Sculpt more mane over that, or musculature if you are up to it.

Dunno what to do about the front claws though, they're a bit ridiculous.

[Meteor]

Dunno what to do about the front claws though, they're a bit ridiculous.

indeed they are. they're my biggest concern in fact, because I don't know what to use as a starting point for paws

But thanks for the suggestions thus far, at least I know I'm on the right track with the work ahead

[Kython]

I'm goind to help a friend of mine out by taking the HE half. he's getting into skaven and I'm giving him 30 euros towards the set.
I think the conversions will be relatively easy. i'm making a gs mould of a HE lion face,press some GS into that and you get a face without having to buy the lions (if you have a friend that owns one of course, as I do, if you havent then you might as well sculpt one yourself, not that hard) and I have some carnosaur claws lying around that will, with a little greenstuff, become the paws. I'll replace the swordmasters' swords with bloodletter ones and resculpt the chainmail. Don't know what to do with the spearheads of the sea guard though but except that they look ok. And if you just sculpt robes over the ellyrians' armour you have dark riders. and that's quite good for 30 euros (you can get one box of spears for that) you can get cheap GS on the interwebs if you're gonna do extensive resculpting on them.

[Tomj8937]

Ive got my mates army now but while im at games day im gunna get another island of blood, get it signed, sell skaven and convert the high elves. Siemples.

[Vulcan]

Looking at the Griffin in my hot little hands ( ), I don't think the claws are overly long. The problem is that they are overly thin.

They look more like stork legs than eagle claws to me.

[Tomj8937]

are they easily convertible or not? wanna know for a counts as character on manticore.