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upcoming bretts game.

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Hi I have a game in afew weeks at my local GW, its a three way battle and ill be facing either lizard men, ogres or warriors of chaos (khorne).

Im taking bretts and will have the following list.
Forgive me if the total points are not quite right as its off the top of my head list not in front of me.

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Lord full armour and lance, dragon claw, agiluf armour and heroism virtue

227 pts

Lv 3 prophetess with horse and earth rod.

265 pts

Paladin full armour Rampagers standard and impetuous knight virtue

166 pts

Lv 2 damsel on horse dispel

140 pts

Core

25 Men at arms full command

152 pts

6 Errant knight full command

141 pts

12 knights of the realm full command

312 pts

9 Errant knights full command Errant banner

221 pts

2 x 10 bowmen

65 pts x 130

Special

3 pegasus knights

165 pts

Rare

Trebuchet

90 pts

Total points

Character: 793
Core: 956
Special: 165
Rare: 90

Total :2004

Depending on where I set up I want to have a strong flank and try and roll up from one end to the other. Will the lord, paladin and Lv 3 all in the realm knights be too many eggs in one basket?

Any additions or changes wanted..

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Perhaps use the Bretss forum. round table?
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Zenith wrote:Perhaps use the Bretss forum. round table?
You could try just answering his Q. Zenith..? :? He HAS put it in the right section of the forum after all....

@Lord Malek: Unfortunately I know very little about Brettonians, but from what I do know you should try and get flank charges with your knights at all costs - if only because most infantry units are too strong now to be broken from the front by cavalry. Also, you could try increasing those men-at-arms to 30 and using them in horde formation?

Regarding your magic items, what does the earth rod do? Would it not be safer to give your only scroll to your Prophetess, and also to provide her with a ward save, as losing her would cripple your magic phase....?
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Go with the age old combo Tress of Isoulde, Virtue of Heroism, Cuirass of Fortune, Heartwood Lance if I remember correctly. That's re-roll to hit, hitting on 2's, re-roll to wound, Heroic Killing blow s6.

Sword of the Lady's Champion and Armor of Aguiluf is also common.
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Post by Lord malek »

Hi thanks for the replies.

Iv posted the list on afew forums im on.

The earth rod lets me re roll miscasts which Iv found usefull.

Ichiyo Thanks will look into that combo and yeah I am going to try and have kights on one flank and try to combat reform so i can roll up the flanks.
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@ichiyo: Hmm, this is what I mean when I say I know very little about Brets, but are you sure the combo you've mentioned will confer Heroic Killing Blow? I don't recall Heroic Killing Blow being in the 7 Ed. game....?
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Hi no The virtue changed in the FAQ to give it Heroic killing blow.

As far as list goes Iv chatted to some people and have this new slightly changed list....

Lord full armour, tress, heartwood lance and v.of heroism

229 pts

Paladin BS full armour banner of swiftness and impetuous knight virtue

124 pts

Lv 3 prophetess on horse and earth rod

230 pts

Lv 2 damsel on horse dispel

140 pts

Core

30 Men at arms full command

177 pts

6 Errant knight full command

141 pts

12 knights of the realm full command

312 pts

9 Errant knights full command Errant banner

221 pts

2 x 14 bowmen

84 pts x 168

Special

3 pegasus knights

165 pts

Rare

Trebuchet

90 pts

Total points : 1997 so comes in under 2000.

As for some of the replies I think the re roll miscast is ok as she will get the blessing ward save which can be boosted up to a 3+ save vs some magic missiles. Also she will be in 2nd rank of a knight unit.
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I think you mean "84 pts x 2" instead of "84 pts x 168"?! L.O.L!! :D
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no i mean 84 x 2 is 168......
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I think it's a pretty standard Bret list, not too broken in any capacity, and I think it's well suited to deal with the challenges you're facing. I would like to see more Pegasus Knights or more archers, but I understand the reason for not taking a lot of either. Still, Pegasus Knights will have lots of units to hunt down when it comes to facing skink, salamander and terradon-heavy lizardmen, as well as Chaos Hellcannons and Warshrines. The Archers are also good versus skinks, salamanders, etc. and good for removing marauder horsemen, hounds, and helping to thin out great weapon-wielding Marauder hordes.

What Lores are your casteres using? I assume you're not making her a Level 4 because you've hit the cap for Lords? The Level 2 Damsel is useful also, but I think that 2 Lords and 2 Heroes is a lot to spend on characters in a 2000 point game, and I would consider dropping the Lower-Level Damsel in order to bulk out the men-at-arms unit so you have a proper tarpit, or get more pegasus knights or longbowmen.
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eDidn't see the pointage. Yah I'd use 3 characters at most. One Lord, one Paladin BSB and one Prophetess. Lore of Life is ok but you'd really want a level 4 for that. Beast for Wyssans Wild Form is pretty ok. I am not really a fan of peasant bowmen but they do have they uses, mainly to take out fastcav, skirmishers and most importantly Fanatics! I am just a bit disappointed with their lowly BS3, I simply hate BS3 shooters. You can't go with more Peg Knights but then you'll need to field a Lord on a Royal Pegasus to remove the restriction and at a 2k level, its not viable to allot that much point on Peg Knights on top of the Royal Pegasus. I'd take out one unit of Archers perhaps to add more KoTR. That's just me, the more knights the better.
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I was actually referring to bulking up the existing knight unit above 3 strong. They're durable, but they're not THAT durable, and I think that having an additional body or two in that unit is quite useful.
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