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Wrathbaby wrote:I think everyone seems to have overlooked how goddamn cool those stormfiends are. It almost makes me want to buy a skaven army...


They look like they belong more in a 40k game than fantasy. And they look like something to attract 12 year olds to the game.

(no offense if you yourself are 12...it's just the vibe I get, and it's not a direction that appeals to me.)
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direweasel wrote:
(no offense if you yourself are 12...


Or not 12 :lol: Tastes differ :P
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direweasel wrote:
They look like they belong more in a 40k game than fantasy. And they look like something to attract 12 year olds to the game.

(no offense if you yourself are 12...it's just the vibe I get, and it's not a direction that appeals to me.)


Well, I suppose if I deploy my Optimus Prime, no one is going to notice...
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Red... wrote:Round bases won't avoid that problem. GW puts 40k models on 25mm, 30mm, 40mm, 60mm, 90x120mm, and 25x70mm bases, which is actually more base sizes than fantasy. Why would a change from square to round fix that problem? *confused*

Least we forgot the new 32mm bases! :shock:

Its going to be boiled down to Goodies Vs Baddies in fantasy. :roll:
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Darkmark wrote:
Red... wrote:Round bases won't avoid that problem. GW puts 40k models on 25mm, 30mm, 40mm, 60mm, 90x120mm, and 25x70mm bases, which is actually more base sizes than fantasy. Why would a change from square to round fix that problem? *confused*

Least we forgot the new 32mm bases! :shock:

Its going to be boiled down to Goodies Vs Baddies in fantasy. :roll:



Hope so. Much better than the baddies vs. badddies of 40K.
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Actually the only thing I liked better in 40k was that all factions were baddies to a more or less extent, which I find quite realistic,
while in WHFB it is ways too much good vs bad, i.e. too far from reality.
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Calisson wrote:Actually the only thing I liked better in 40k was that all factions were baddies to a more or less extent, which I find quite realistic,


I agree with you there. 40k has always been "Which flavour of genocidal maniac do you prefer?"

Calisson wrote:while in WHFB it is ways too much good vs bad, i.e. too far from reality.


I think fantasy has included it, but it has been far too subtle...borderline political. The Empire has been drifting towards zealotry for a while, but the game has never had the big badass story to back it up with (until now).

ET is Warhammer's Horus Heresy. An Empire undone, the Elves made homeless, heroes of light and dark and Chaos seemingly unstoppable.
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Calisson wrote:Actually the only thing I liked better in 40k was that all factions were baddies to a more or less extent, which I find quite realistic,
while in WHFB it is ways too much good vs bad, i.e. too far from reality.



Cynic. :P
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40k has good guys:
- Space Marines (of various flavours)
- Imperial Gua...Astra Militarum
- Tempestus Militarum
- The Inquisition
- Sisters
- Tau
- Eldar

and bad guys:
- Chaos (Daemons and Mortals)
- Orks
- Tyrannids
- Necrons
- Dark Eldar
Yes, the good guys are very flawed and far from "pure good" but they are definitely the good guys. But we've had this argument on here before... :badh:

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Gidean wrote:
Calisson wrote:Actually the only thing I liked better in 40k was that all factions were baddies to a more or less extent, which I find quite realistic,
while in WHFB it is ways too much good vs bad, i.e. too far from reality.



Cynic. :P


I'm with Gidean on this.

I can get into the Warhammer fluff because of the ideals that (formerly) motivated the races. There is a sense of optimism despite the chaos in the old FB Universe.

40k is a great Universe, but just too Grimdark for my tastes. I can only handle so much grimdark.
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Any 9th ed rumours this week?
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Jolemai wrote:Any 9th ed rumours this week?


A lot of speculation around, but nothing really new seems to have surfaced.

This is the only new stuff I have seen.

via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
I wanted to restate that Archaon is on his steed on the cover of book 2, but its not a new model. There are other characters I have seen briefly, like
-Grimgor, Incarnate of Beasts. The model shown is the same as the current model.
-Balthasar, Incarnate of Metal. Same model again as is current

New models I have seen, include a kit that makes three bloodthirster models. These are in the book and are different Monster (characters). They range from 400-550pts.

Taken from memory they are
-Headmen of Khorne with Wrathaxe and Bloodflail standing on flames leaping into the air
-Unfettered Fury with Axe and Whip standing on the ground
-Reaver of the Bloody Path with two handed great axe standing leaping high on flames


Also two new units with new models
-Skullreapers: The Chosen of Khorne with 2 handed swords and other weapons
-Wrathmongers: The Bringers of the Bloodstorm with chain like flails
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A little more speculation has been circulating.
Most of it on what is getting 'squatted'.

However interesting titbit on elves.

Rumour is that they may involve breaking into aspect style factions/units similar to 40k Eldar.

Not sure on how accurate that is but could see it easily being achievable as a way of combining the lists.
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Having heard a few rumours about the Archaon book, it seems this:

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